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Old 02-20-2018, 07:36 PM
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Are we talking about a shop compressor or a 12V compressor in your truck?

If it's a shop compressor running on single phase 120VAC then there is probably a capacitor and a starter winding in series with a centrifugal switch on the shaft of the motor. The cap shifts the phase of the AC in the starter winding to get the motor going. When it's up to speed the centrifugal switch opens and cuts off the starter winding. If the cap is weak the motor doesn't have enough starting torque and will blow fuses because the main winding draws to much current.

14 gauge is a bit light on the wire if you have a 40 amp fuse in the circuit. usually for 30 amps requires 10 gauge wire.

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It's probably a series wound brush DC motor. Voltage drop will cause it to draw excessive current, blowing fuses and switches. 14G is way too light. Should be about 10G. 25' of 14G will drop almost 2 volts. The increased current would make that even more. 25' of 10G drops about 0.6V.
Also, a mini-ISO relay (30 amp) is a little light for the application. Use a Maxi-ISO relay, the one with 3/8" terminals for the power circuit.
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
I am really thinking hard about putting the small tripod's on my truck.


I like to be able to see behind me, and I'm hopping for anothe drop in MPG, that way I can be close to what a 454 used to get.
My 73 originally had the small tripod with the same style mirror head.

When I first got the truck 2 years ago, it hat 31 inch tires and a healthy (stock) 400 big block with an Edelbrock manifold and 600cfm carb, 727 trans and 3.54 gears..... oh and it was 2WD then. 10.5 MPG running @ 55-60, and 8 MPG towing 5k lbs. @ 55. And gas was “cheap” at $1.99.... I can’t imagine the fuel bill now. I’m grateful for the knowledge shared by ya’ll on this forum, as well as the inspiration. Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by j_martin
14G is way too light. Should be about 10G. 25' of 14G will drop almost 2 volts. The increased current would make that even more. 25' of 10G drops about 0.6V.
I agree with this. On the industrial machines I work on (99% of them are three phase power), they have a thermal overload (basically an adjustable circuit breaker). I set them at 110% of what the actual running amp draw for the motor is. So if the electric motor is drawing 30 amps, I would install a 33 amp fuse. Since a 33 amp isn’t available, I’d run 35 or 40 amp. Better yet, install a resetable circuit breaker. Now, if you have a stuck check valve on the out-port from the head, it will cause too much pressure, and the motor just isn’t strong enough to get it going. One way to check this, is to crack the valve loose and let it bleed off. While it’s loose, turn on the motor. If it starts running and blows air, that’s your problem. If not, it could be the wire size....or even a bad, or undersized ground. Or a short of course.

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Originally Posted by 73CrewCab


My 73 originally had the small tripod with the same style mirror head.

When I first got the truck 2 years ago, it hat 31 inch tires and a healthy (stock) 400 big block with an Edelbrock manifold and 600cfm carb, 727 trans and 3.54 gears..... oh and it was 2WD then. 10.5 MPG running @ 55-60, and 8 MPG towing 5k lbs. @ 55. And gas was “cheap” at $1.99.... I can’t imagine the fuel bill now. I’m grateful for the knowledge shared by ya’ll on this forum, as well as the inspiration. Thanks guys!
That reminded me of a friend telling me about an old 70/80's Ford F350 he had. 460/auto it got 8mpg loaded with a camper, or 8mpg empty.....
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I have a Viair 380-C (200 psi continuous) on my truck and I have the switch set at 175 psi,
I have it wired using 8-gauge wire directly from my rear AGM batteries through a 40-amp relay.

I had it fused with a 40-amp ato style fuse and I was continually melting them, now I use a 30-amp cartridge fuse like you would find on your home air conditioner and it has not blown yet.

I am using an adjustable Dayton pressure switch to trigger the relay.

When I had it wired using 10-gauge wire, it worked but the wire would get pretty hot since it runs for about 5 minuets at a time to fill my tanks.

Maybe increase your wire size especially if you are far from your battery and use a quality fuse.

Do you have an ammeter so you can check the current draw on the motor?
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
That reminded me of a friend telling me about an old 70/80's Ford F350 he had. 460/auto it got 8mpg loaded with a camper, or 8mpg empty.....
My first year in college I had a '77 F150 step side with 9" of lift, 400M engine, 3 speed granny low trans, 4.10 rears on 35x12.50 Mud Kings. Ran both an Edelbrock and Holley (at different times) 600 CFM carb with a super cool 8" velocity stack, headers and cherrybombs. The 400M had an "RV" cam in it. Got 7 MPG no matter what. Cold, hot, flats, hills, towing, empty, highway, around town, etc.

Of course I drove it very conservatively and never tromped on the go pedal...

Pretty sure a 460 would have been an all around improvement but the 400M was OK.
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Let the wife drive to Denny's but she has to have the seat moved up. Unfortunately it won't stay locked and suddenly slides back.

Anyone had this problem?

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don't let the wife drive your truck.....
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Originally Posted by Blue Goose
don't let the wife drive your truck.....
LOL!
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Originally Posted by Blue Goose
don't let the wife drive your truck.....
The truck is trying to tell you something....^^^^
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
Let the wife drive to Denny's but she has to have the seat moved up. Unfortunately it won't stay locked and suddenly slides back.

Anyone had this problem?

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Do you have a bench, or factory buckets? The stock buckets are easily separated from the base with 4 nuts. Pull the seat, flip it over and make sure the cross wire is working /still attached.

Most likely it's disconnected, or the track is blocked or filled with crud.
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
Let the wife drive to Denny's but she has to have the seat moved up. Unfortunately it won't stay locked and suddenly slides back.

Anyone had this problem?

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And here I am driving around without a passenger seat for the past 4 months, while telling my wife that “I’m still working on the ejector system”. She wants me to put the Auto back in so she can drive it.... not gonna happen. Maybe it’s time that I quit being a hard ****, and mount the passenger bucket.... at least so I don’t have to pull out the car seat, to haul around my lazy, narcoleptic worker.
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Do you have a bench, or factory buckets? The stock buckets are easily separated from the base with 4 nuts. Pull the seat, flip it over and make sure the cross wire is working /still attached.

Most likely it's disconnected, or the track is blocked or filled with crud.
I have a bench seat. I WISH I had buckets! I guess I'll have to pull it out and fix whatever is messed up. Do the latches get worn out? If so are they available?

Were bucket seats available in the 89?

Thanks for the info.

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You shouldn't have to pull the seat out, just look underneath it. There is a spring loaded latch on both sides connected by a wire from the drivers side handle to the passenger side latch. The latches could be gummed up, bent or the return springs are broke or missing. Probably an easy fix as long as the wire isn't broken. That might be harder to find. The good news is the parts should all be the same from a multitude of years and across all the D & W100's to 350's as long as it's a bench seat.

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