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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:01 PM
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in my experience it's almost always the cable between the two sides that gets unhooked or broke. Ram Chargers had buckets and a big center console. I had a set in my '86 Power Wagon, nice ride, room for all kinds of crap in the console, but not user friendly if you have a single cab and need a third spot for someone to sit.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Goose
in my experience it's almost always the cable between the two sides that gets unhooked or broke. Ram Chargers had buckets and a big center console. I had a set in my '86 Power Wagon, nice ride, room for all kinds of crap in the console, but not user friendly if you have a single cab and need a third spot for someone to sit.
That's what the bed is for.

Seriously, I've thought about putting a seat and belts in under the shell for people. They could be easily taken out if necessary. But then I don't have kids and almost never need room for a third person. In the old days you could strap them across the hood like a deer.

I would love to have a Ramcharger though.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 03:10 PM
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If you have to pull the seat, think of all the loose change and dog fur you will find!!!

I'm sure Ollie has a few parts lying around. Most likely disconnected and easily fixed.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
If you have to pull the seat, think of all the loose change and dog fur you will find!!!

I'm sure Ollie has a few parts lying around. Most likely disconnected and easily fixed.
I had it out once before when I cleaned several years of cow poop out of the carpet. I didn't find anything of value other than the cow poop. I just sat in the truck and moved the seat into several positions and I couldn't find a problem with it. The only thing I can think of is that with the two of us in the seat it doesn't latch straight. Next time I'll let her set the seat before I get in and see if that makes a difference. If not I'll just tell her the truck doesn't like her.

She can drive a stick just fine. She's been doing it for years without a problem. I like her for that. She's also been known to change filters and spark plugs on her own. She's also smarter than me but I wouldn't ever let her know that.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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Went out to the barn and saw how clean she was sitting there all nice and warm and dry, looked outside at the cold rain.............walked out shut the door and had the wife drop me off at work.....
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
Went out to the barn and saw how clean she was sitting there all nice and warm and dry, looked outside at the cold rain.............walked out shut the door and had the wife drop me off at work.....
My truck sets out all the time and I have to think up reasons to go for a ride in it.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
That's what the bed is for.

Seriously, I've thought about putting a seat and belts in under the shell for people. They could be easily taken out if necessary. But then I don't have kids and almost never need room for a third person. In the old days you could strap them across the hood like a deer.

I would love to have a Ramcharger though.
When I was a kid a friend of the family had a Subaru Brat with the jump seats in the bed. Man I LOVED riding in the back of that thing!!
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
Are we talking about a shop compressor or a 12V compressor in your truck?

If it's a shop compressor running on single phase 120VAC then there is probably a capacitor and a starter winding in series with a centrifugal switch on the shaft of the motor. The cap shifts the phase of the AC in the starter winding to get the motor going. When it's up to speed the centrifugal switch opens and cuts off the starter winding. If the cap is weak the motor doesn't have enough starting torque and will blow fuses because the main winding draws to much current.

14 gauge is a bit light on the wire if you have a 40 amp fuse in the circuit. usually for 30 amps requires 10 gauge wire.

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Onboard 12v air compressor on my truck, Viair 400C. It's an older model that came off of an 06 Dodge my dad bought from a guy who had an air horn kit on it. My dad didn't care for the horns so I put them on my truck. I installed the new pressure switch yesterday and cleaned the inlet filter of the compressor. It seems to be operating normally. I did hear the compressor kick on later and it turned out I had a small leak from where I have the pressure gauge in the tank. Pulled it out and wrapped it a couple of more times with teflon tape and threw some thread sealant on it as well. I haven't checked on it since last night and so I will run to the garage and take a look at things right now.

Originally Posted by j_martin
It's probably a series wound brush DC motor. Voltage drop will cause it to draw excessive current, blowing fuses and switches. 14G is way too light. Should be about 10G. 25' of 14G will drop almost 2 volts. The increased current would make that even more. 25' of 10G drops about 0.6V.
Also, a mini-ISO relay (30 amp) is a little light for the application. Use a Maxi-ISO relay, the one with 3/8" terminals for the power circuit.
I was mistaken. I used 12ga wire. Probably still a little too light though for the run. I do have it run through a 40amp relay if that changes anything. I have a plan to relocate the compressor and tank. Probably build a box and mount it on the passenger side frame rail underneath the bed. I will more than likely rewire it then. I'll consider the distance and size the wiring appropriately.

Originally Posted by 73CrewCab
I agree with this. On the industrial machines I work on (99% of them are three phase power), they have a thermal overload (basically an adjustable circuit breaker). I set them at 110% of what the actual running amp draw for the motor is. So if the electric motor is drawing 30 amps, I would install a 33 amp fuse. Since a 33 amp isn’t available, I’d run 35 or 40 amp. Better yet, install a resetable circuit breaker. Now, if you have a stuck check valve on the out-port from the head, it will cause too much pressure, and the motor just isn’t strong enough to get it going. One way to check this, is to crack the valve loose and let it bleed off. While it’s loose, turn on the motor. If it starts running and blows air, that’s your problem. If not, it could be the wire size....or even a bad, or undersized ground. Or a short of course.
I do have the 12v (+) to the pressure switch hooked to a self-resetting circuit breaker under the hood. As I said above, I was mistaken about the wiring size. I looked closer while under it yesterday. It's 12ga.

By the pressure gauge in the tank, it shuts off at 140psi. While the switch is set for an OFF pressure of 145psi, I assume the differential is because the switch is in a 'T' connected to the discharge line and check valve from the compressor. The switch is set for an ON pressure of 110psi. So far seems to be operating as per those settings.

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Jimbo,
I have a Viair 380-C (200 psi continuous) on my truck and I have the switch set at 175 psi,
I have it wired using 8-gauge wire directly from my rear AGM batteries through a 40-amp relay.

I had it fused with a 40-amp ato style fuse and I was continually melting them, now I use a 30-amp cartridge fuse like you would find on your home air conditioner and it has not blown yet.

I am using an adjustable Dayton pressure switch to trigger the relay.

When I had it wired using 10-gauge wire, it worked but the wire would get pretty hot since it runs for about 5 minuets at a time to fill my tanks.

Maybe increase your wire size especially if you are far from your battery and use a quality fuse.

Do you have an ammeter so you can check the current draw on the motor?
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I don't have an ammeter exactly but an older analog VOM and a cheap Harbor Freight VOM. Both are only capable of reading up to 10amps before they release their smoke though.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 11:23 PM
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Got a few more inches of snow the other day and decided I would go out and plow today in Sno-ball. Well the plow was having some issues, would just click at the solenoid and after 20 cycles on the switch it "might" work. Gave it a few whacks with a hammer and made no real difference, so after a bunch of wasted time messing with it I decided to hook up the block heater on the Case skid steer and then run into town and grab another solenoid.

All they had was a solenoid for a western plow system, no duty rating on it but it had 3 poles like mine so figured I would give it a shot. Got it installed and right away I knew something was not right....the solenoid was buzzing, not clicking. Figured I would do some plowing anyway.....well that lasted less then 10 min then the plow went into full run mode and wanted to only turn the plow the the left, stayed running regardless of the ignition on or not......had to turn the plow all the way to the right, then quickly jump out and disconnect the battery.

So parked it and fired up the skidsteer and finished my plowing. Did some research and seems I need a continues duty 150amp unit, so not sure how stout that one I bought was? Guess I'll order a new HD unit and see what happens.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 05:19 AM
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I was told Trombetta was the best manufacturer for solenoid, although I've never purchased one.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...HVgBBVoQ8wIISA

I was told Trombetta was the best manufacturer for solenoid, although I've never purchased one.
Funny I came across that brand in my research last night...Thanks!

Sno-Ball was still sporting the original Chrysler marked solenoid....
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 06:06 PM
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I thought about taking my '90 out for a ride today, then I just shut the door and opened a 15 pack of IPA. Summer will be here in 4 months or so.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 06:20 PM
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I thought about taking my '90 out for a ride today, then I just shut the door and opened a 15 pack of IPA. Summer will be here in 4 months or so.
Lol. Its May, here already. How many of the 15 have you killed? Hangover heading your way tomorrow?
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 06:23 PM
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Hangovers are for amateurs.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 06:29 PM
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Hangovers are for amateurs.
I know. I'm a charter member of the national hangover association.


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