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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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The link doesn't work for me.
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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The link doesn't work for me.
try this maybe better?
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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Or if that doesn't work here it is
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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OK now I see. By the way welcome to DTR.
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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Seems like a pretty solid setup as far as I can see. The guy used it for years on the truck as a daily. And thanks!
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Old Apr 11, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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I just cleaned up my parking actuating arms after soaking them in Phosphoric acid now to hit them again to etch them and then paint and assemble the brakes. nothing too exciting
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 12:44 AM
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I checked the torque on all of the mains and rod cap bolts. Installed the oil sump pick up tube and then put the oil pan on. Once all the bolts were torqued, I sprayed it and the bolt heads with some gloss black. Next plan is to JB Weld the perimeter of all of the expansion plugs.

Forgot to mention that piston protrusion came to .024-.025" and valve recession is at least .045". Ryan at Hamilton says that a standard head gasket will be fine to run with the 182-214 cam and those dimensions. In fact, those numbers are right at the maximum and minimum for their cams to be 100% bolt-in for a 12 and early 24 valve (VP) engines.

My original oil pump part number was superceded by the later pump #4939587. Running with it.

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New block heater.

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Keating rear plate.

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Bottom tapping the threads in the block was easier than I anticipated.

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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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Jim,

Which oil pump are you using? As I recall, there are a number of different volume pumps that were used in various engines, but more specifically, the non-ic pump was replaced by a higher volume pump in the ic trucks, and then the 24 valve pump is even higher volume than that? If you have the information handy to give me a little lesson on that, I would appreciate it.

Thanks.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo486
I checked the torque on all of the mains and rod cap bolts. Installed the oil sump pick up tube and then put the oil pan on. Once all the bolts were torqued, I sprayed it and the bolt heads with some gloss black. Next plan is to JB Weld the perimeter of all of the expansion plugs.

Forgot to mention that piston protrusion came to .024-.025" and valve recession is at least .045". Ryan at Hamilton says that a standard head gasket will be fine to run with the 182-214 cam and those dimensions. In fact, those numbers are right at the maximum and minimum for their cams to be 100% bolt-in for a 12 and early 24 valve (VP) engines.

My original oil pump part number was superceded by the later pump #4939587. Running with it.



New block heater.



Keating rear plate.



Bottom tapping the threads in the block was easier than I anticipated.





looks like fun to me.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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Mmmmm...engine ****!
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Curiousity, and not negativity...

Jim,

Why is the deck surface "brownish" ? Doesn't look like rust, but imprint of the gasket.

The rebuilder didn't machine the deck, I assume ? Again, curious as to why, considering it looks as though the block was boiled out .
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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A sign of the times, I guess... although, you would assume that Cummins has them held to some higher standard of sorts..

I'm always flabbergasted when I walk out of a cummins dealer with parts that say that.. although I'm sure it's really nothing to worry about.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Found my original throttle cable which I saved some year or two ago, after replacing the 20 year old original.

This way, I have one to use as a template, or rebuild with a new inner cable should the need arise.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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finished my little welding center.... and first repair since it's completed.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Alec
Jim,

Which oil pump are you using? As I recall, there are a number of different volume pumps that were used in various engines, but more specifically, the non-ic pump was replaced by a higher volume pump in the ic trucks, and then the 24 valve pump is even higher volume than that? If you have the information handy to give me a little lesson on that, I would appreciate it.

Thanks.
I bought the lube oil pump for the 24 valve engines which is said to be higher flowing. I found it on CPP's website and it was listed for an '89-'02 engine. CPP also listed the part number for it, 4939587, so off to Cummins I went. I left it with the machine shop along with the shortblock. They called near the end of the job and said they found that the body of the pump itself was nearly 1/8" smaller in diameter than the receiving bore in the block (I have the exact dimensions written down on a piece of paper in my shed). I questioned the fitment with others who have been running this pump. No issues reported whatsoever. But, me being me, I didn't wanna take a chance and be the one who has an issue. So I attempted to order a replacement for the original pump. I supplied the part number and was given a superseded number. Guess what it was? 4939587. So I'm running with it. However, keeping the original lube oil pump (known still good) as a spare.

Originally Posted by NJTman
Curiousity, and not negativity...

Jim,

Why is the deck surface "brownish" ? Doesn't look like rust, but imprint of the gasket.

The rebuilder didn't machine the deck, I assume ? Again, curious as to why, considering it looks as though the block was boiled out .
I'm guessing just a "staining" from the previous gasket(s). I did clean it up some with a ScotchBrite pad though. But no, the machine shop did not deck the block. It did get dipped in a hot tank though. They told me it checked out just fine as most do. Heads will always be warped on the exhaust side each time you pull them. To a certain extent, of course, dependent upon how long it's been run. I may lay a straight edge across the deck just to see for myself what "fine" looks like.

Here's some more engine **** from today for yous guys.

Primed and painted the new head today with VHT. Rated for up to 2000 degrees.

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The cam gear was treated to a retainer from Hamilton.

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Applied JB Weld to the remaining expansion plugs; oil rifle and coolant plugs in the tappet valley, oil rifle and cam plug at the rear of the block.

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I also bought new rocker levers, thrust washers and retaining rings. New levers weren't necessary as the existing levers were fine but a new set wasn't that expensive. However, Cummins only had half of the retaining rings on hand so I'll have to wait until next week to assemble the remaining 3. All of the rocker shafts diameter measurement maintained the maximum specified diameter of .747".

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