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1990 D250 to W250

Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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Looks good, the different height 4x4 shifter handles is a nice touch.
I also like the look of what appears to be a magnetic bracket for your plow controller.
Seems to keep small drill bits, punches and such from getting lost too.
Since I am well over 6 ft, the plow controller mounted to the dash is just a knee basher waiting to happen.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Thanks Oliver -- the plow control basically on the seat where I rest my right hand is by far the most comfortable to me . . . and back when I was friskier, I'd just take the controller out of the cab for the summer. But now I use the magnet to hold misc. tools, as you mentioned, and most importantly, a pair of super-fine tweezers!

The taller lever let me space the two closer together & still have room to grab the *****. I think I had all that in the truck when I came up to see you a couple of years ago though?
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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I know mine didn't like 18 ga. I will have to try them on the thinner metal. I use a lot of 18 gauge. I was given a bunch of cabinet parts for scientific testing machines that got made wrong over several years.
Nothing wrong with free sheet metal. I patched the rotted out DS floor pan in my cousin's CJ7 with a piece of metal I cut out of the side of a drier that he was junking. I did that in 1997 or so and it's still holding. I pop riveted it in so I wouldn't burn the enamel off of it.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFusion
Nothing wrong with free sheet metal. I patched the rotted out DS floor pan in my cousin's CJ7 with a piece of metal I cut out of the side of a drier that he was junking. I did that in 1997 or so and it's still holding. I pop riveted it in so I wouldn't burn the enamel off of it.
That old baked enamel was tough stuff.
The best part of the stuff I got is it never made it to paint.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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Not to derail this thread, but can someone explain just how a twin stick works ?

Is there a special transfer case that's being used ?


Is this the boot you would use ?

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrai...9EIaAgOB8P8HAQ
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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The 2 sticks make it so you can choose cool gearing options like 2L.

You use the same stock NP-205.

If you look at your NP-205 it has two "rods" that operate the gearing selection.
They are connected to one bar that your stock 4x4 linkage is connected to.
Using the twin sticks each rod is operated by each shifter linkage / lever.


Originally Posted by NJTman
Not to derail this thread, but can someone explain just how a twin stick works ?

Is there a special transfer case that's being used ?


Is this the boot you would use ?

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrai...9EIaAgOB8P8HAQ
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Not to derail this thread, but can someone explain just how a twin stick works ?

Is there a special transfer case that's being used ?


Is this the boot you would use ?

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrai...9EIaAgOB8P8HAQ
As Oliver said 2 Low. But the really cool part is if done right. 2 low front or rear. Also high front or rear. Meaning if one end starts to slide under power and the other is on solid ground you can kill the power.(Kinda hard to explain but if you have been there you know)
And a bonus is easier shifting because you are shifting only one side at a time.


A lot of people use that boot but I will be making my own( I have an industrial sewing machine too) because I need the shifter boot as well. I also found some ***** that all match.


This is the basic idea. pretty simple really.
http://jb-custom-fabrication.myshopify.com/
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Alec
These are nothing fancy, but with a little extra effort, I think they could be made to look quite stock:

I like it Easy to tell the sticks apart by feel.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Ever since reading about a twin stick NP205 I've kind of really wanted one. But having to modify the floor to make room for the shifters was the killer for me. But the way Alec did his I am now reconsidering it...Seriously!!

Any chance we could get some pics of your shifter mechanism from under the truck?

I think I am now on the hunt for all the parts required to do this modification....Right like I needed ANOTHER project....
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Just went looking around that link you posted for those shifters...JB-Custom-Fabrication....These caught my eye right away!!



http://jb-custom-fabrication.myshopi...-kit-for-np205

Adjustable shift detent kit....so you can adjust how easily, or hard you want to be able to shift your NP205....Friggin brilliant!!

I will be ordering a set of those very soon.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Oh, so correct me if I'm wrong.



One lever does from 2 high to 4 high, and the other does 2 low or 4 low ?

IOW, you can disconnnect the front axle or the rear axle depending on how conditions are requiring it.



I HATE my shifter, as it's always bound by torque binding pressure, and a real PITA to shift. When I'm plowing, I'm forever shifting from 4 high to 4 low, and it's constantly bound by the torque pressure, even if I back up first.

is it easily accomplished while everything is in the truck ?
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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T-Man...you asking how hard it would be to swap in those adjustable shift detent kit? If so, then yes you could do it while it's in the truck.

Twin stick...not sure...but I would think you should be able to do everything without removing the tranny, or TC. Just remove your front driveshaft, and that should give you lots of room to get the shifters, and linkage all sorted out.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
Just went looking around that link you posted for those shifters...JB-Custom-Fabrication....These caught my eye right away!!



http://jb-custom-fabrication.myshopi...-kit-for-np205

Adjustable shift detent kit....so you can adjust how easily, or hard you want to be able to shift your NP205....Friggin brilliant!!

I will be ordering a set of those very soon.
yeah I was eyeballing those too.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Oh, so correct me if I'm wrong.



One lever does from 2 high to 4 high, and the other does 2 low or 4 low ?

IOW, you can disconnnect the front axle or the rear axle depending on how conditions are requiring it.



I HATE my shifter, as it's always bound by torque binding pressure, and a real PITA to shift. When I'm plowing, I'm forever shifting from 4 high to 4 low, and it's constantly bound by the torque pressure, even if I back up first.

is it easily accomplished while everything is in the truck ?
here is the pattern for our trucks. There are several ways to do it. these guys do it a bit different than JB.
http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog...seshifters.htm
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
T-Man...you asking how hard it would be to swap in those adjustable shift detent kit? If so, then yes you could do it while it's in the truck.

Twin stick...not sure...but I would think you should be able to do everything without removing the tranny, or TC. Just remove your front driveshaft, and that should give you lots of room to get the shifters, and linkage all sorted out.
Worst case scenario A guy could jack and block the transmission and drop the lower part of the transmission crossmember and front drive line.for room to work.
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