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What did you do to your Gen 1 today?

Old Mar 12, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Butterball
Today I swapped the bed from the black parts truck to the '92 D250.



People who buy welders should be subjected to an I.Q. test!

This was a previous owner's attempt to fabricate a ball hitch mount in the bed.... :tsk:



That mess took about 2 hours to remove without damaging the frame, brake lines, wiring, fuel tank, etc. - but I was able to remove everything except some leftover steel plate welded along the length of one of the crossmembers.



When you use a 1/2 ton bed on a 3/4 or 1-ton you need to remove these little spacers for clearance, there are 2 on each side. The heavier trucks have a slightly taller frame in these areas. A Sawzall made pretty quick work of them...




Bed swap is complete! Next come the doors and fenders!
Your exhaust system is kinked. I can't imagine it runs very well with the exhaust closed off like that.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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Weird, my 73 has those center bed “spacers” and it’s a W200. They must have dropped them later in production. I’d still like to find another bed for my truck, but early 70's short beds cost as much as a whole 90’s donor truck in Commiefornia
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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I don't think the series of the trucks determined whether the beds had the "spacers." I'm thinking it has to do with the earlier trucks having a shorter frame. Dodge must have stopped using the "spacers" on the bed sometime around 1991.5 or 92 as that is when the taller, 8" frames came around. The DRW bed I bought was from an 89-91 somewhere and had the "spacers" on it also which I removed in order to use on my truck. While mine is a 1990, it's also a chassis cab. Chassis cab trucks had the taller, 8" frames no matter the year.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 03:02 PM
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So I did my RR steering many moons ago, and haven't had much issue other than a slight leak in the gear itself, until recently.

I've been hearing a clunk in the front end,and today, the day of a Nor Easter heading in, I realized the drag link was going bad and the noise was the link moving about in the pitman arm end.

Well, after frantically calling every local auto parts store, and getting " its in Tennessee," or "factory order only" which means they have to make it from scratch.

Ugh. What's a boy to do?

Break out the welder.

Took a big "C" clamp, and compressed the loose pin into the Pitman arm end, where it is supposed to be. Discovered the nut moved 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch outwards. Cleaned up the metal, and flooded weld onto the crown nut, and into this gap that shouldn't be there. Welded the nut to the tapered pin end, so it can't come off while plowing snow today and tomorrow.

Ill cut that nut right off, clean up the minimal spillage that the pitman arm received, and when I get a new drag link, ill be back at new.

No more clunk. What a pain not having these parts available. Ill be ordering an extra one to have in stock for the next failure.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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Maybe, but I guess I’ll just look for another bed in good shape or put a flatbed on it. I don’t care if the paint is good on a replacement bed, just if it is straight. Maybe I’ll find one nearby and then sell my bed for a couple hundred bucks.
You might be lucky and find somebody willing to swap a flatbed for yours.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Your exhaust system is kinked. I can't imagine it runs very well with the exhaust closed off like that.
Good eye! The cobbled-up exhaust was also damaged in the accident that hit every panel on the passenger side, definitely on my list of stuff to fix!
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Butterball
Good eye! The cobbled-up exhaust was also damaged in the accident that hit every panel on the passenger side, definitely on my list of stuff to fix!
For an affordable, good quality unit, get the 4" Diamond Eye unit. My mistake was purchasing a stainless muffler, and standard guillotine clamps. Ruined the system, and will force me to replace it prematurely.

Next one will be the same system, with galvanized band clamps and muffler

Good value for the cost.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
For an affordable, good quality unit, get the 4" Diamond Eye unit. My mistake was purchasing a stainless muffler, and standard guillotine clamps. Ruined the system, and will force me to replace it prematurely.

Next one will be the same system, with galvanized band clamps and muffler

Good value for the cost.
how did the clamps ruin the system I have a 4” diamond eye for my truck but haven’t installed it yet
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cabtruck

how did the clamps ruin the system I have a 4” diamond eye for my truck but haven’t installed it yet
Guillotine clamps crush the pipes together, preventing disassembly and adjustments. I needed to adjust the system due to clearances and rattles. I wish I had listened to the guys here and installed band clamps that would allowed me to adjust later. I would NOT install stainless clamps or muffler, as dissimilar metals, and galvanic corrosion rotted the pipes out, which is why illjave to buy a new system soon.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
You might be lucky and find somebody willing to swap a flatbed for yours.
I doubt it. The other day I saw a bed that looked to be in perfect condition as far as not having any dents for $500 with a tailgate. Paint wasn’t good, but neither is the rest of my truck. Tried to find it yesterday and it was gone.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
Guillotine clamps crush the pipes together, preventing disassembly and adjustments. I needed to adjust the system due to clearances and rattles. I wish I had listened to the guys here and installed band clamps that would allowed me to adjust later. I would NOT install stainless clamps or muffler, as dissimilar metals, and galvanic corrosion rotted the pipes out, which is why illjave to buy a new system soon.
I can attest to the guillotine clamps making further adjustments more difficult. Not impossible, but harder. Takes a little more pulling. I haven’t yet had an issue with the stainless muffler, but I have only had the exhaust for a couple months. Hopefully it doesn’t cause an issue. Would spraying the contact area between the muffler and the rest of the exhaust with VHT paint fix that issue? I’m happy with the Diamond Eye kit so far. It requires adding about 2 inches to the outlet if you have a 47rh to clear the transmission cross member since it gets moved back due to the thicker adapter plate and such. I still need to do that before I rub a hole in something.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 11:05 PM
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Fixed Speedometer

Today I got the adapter from PATC in the mail and put it on. My speedometer was reading 47m.p.h when I was actually going 55 so I got the +20% adapter. I know that my speedometer was off by 17% not 20, but I didn’t feel like paying the good chunk of change extra for the custom ratio adapter. It is only a couple miles per hour off at 65, so that is good enough for me. Most new cars are off about that much even. It’s just nice to have the speedometer working properly! The P.O. had been running just the sensor straight into the transfer case since the transmission swap about 30,000 miles ago, so my truck really has about 132,000 miles instead of 128,xxx miles. Still pretty low I guess and I’m just guessing on the mileage. Still low miles for these trucks.

It is strange, I have noticed that I have just a little bit of something coming out my crankcase breather, so I took the oil fill cap off and there is some stuff coming out there, but I haven’t noticed any oil burned since my last oil change coming up on 800 miles ago. Is it blow by or something else? Not sure how the truck would have blow by, but I am known to have bad luck. I don’t got rid the truck. In fact I am pretty sure I am in valet mode as I think my afc diaphragm is torn. Another one is on the way along with a GlowShift 3 gauge pillar pod so I can get my 3 in 1 gauge installed. Maybe it got a little blow by from the cruise flooring it for a ways before I decided to turn off the cruise since I wasn’t really going any faster than just letting the truck be slow using my foot.
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stGEN'93


I can attest to the guillotine clamps making further adjustments more difficult. Not impossible, but harder. Takes a little more pulling. I haven’t yet had an issue with the stainless muffler, but I have only had the exhaust for a couple months. Hopefully it doesn’t cause an issue. Would spraying the contact area between the muffler and the rest of the exhaust with VHT paint fix that issue? I’m happy with the Diamond Eye kit so far. It requires adding about 2 inches to the outlet if you have a 47rh to clear the transmission cross member since it gets moved back due to the thicker adapter plate and such. I still need to do that before I rub a hole in something.
It took several years, but the muffler flanges are rotting the pipes at both ends

Didn't say that the clamps were impossible to adjust. Just so much more work . I have had to split a pipe to release the two sections to adjust.

Regarding the galvanic corrosion, the way to stop it is separation of dissimilar metals. Not sure if paint would be enough
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
It took several years, but the muffler flanges are rotting the pipes at both ends

Didn't say that the clamps were impossible to adjust. Just so much more work . I have had to split a pipe to release the two sections to adjust.

Regarding the galvanic corrosion, the way to stop it is separation of dissimilar metals. Not sure if paint would be enough
Dang. All the high performance mufflers are stainless, so that makes it kind of hard for those of us who run mufflers. I wonder if the expanded portions of the pipes that have been crushed by the guillotine clamps could be re-expanded to get rid of the small portion that has been crushed by the clamp?
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 09:01 AM
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You could always buy DE stainless exhaust system with stainless band clamps....Then it would all be stainless, so the dissimilar metal issue would be non issue.
That is what I will be doing on my 12V '78 Ramcharger build.
I don't use guillotine clamps on any of my exhaust systems for anything other than hangers.
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