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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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I'm taking a break from changing coolant hoses on my truck. The heater hoses were a lot easier that I figured they would be. Now I'm rasseling with the lower radiator hose. It's slightly small to go over the engine inlet. More later on that.

I hooked up a female garden hose fitting to the 5/8 hose I bought for the heater hoses and connected it to the nipple where the heater line connects. Then I turned the water on full and ran it until it was clear. then drained it all and turned the truck around to change the hoses.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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Edwin,
Did you put silicone hoses back on or regular old rubber ones?
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 07:32 PM
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Edwin,
Did you put silicone hoses back on or regular old rubber ones?
I put Gates radiator hoses on and 5/8" rubber hose on everything else. I wouldn't know a silicone hose if it turned into a snake and bit me. I got the 100% antifreeze in and of course it went in very slowly even with the heater hose off the top of the head. Took at least 1/2 hour to get it all in. Of course I spilled some and it got on the belt and it squealed for a long time even though I hosed it off. Took the truck for a short drive down the 405 fwy and the squealing finally stopped. Popped the hood and looked it over for leaks and I didn't see any so I'm calling the operation a success.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 07:05 AM
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I did not get much done to my truck this weekend,

I just spent the entire weekend at the NHRA Winternationals in Pomona being immersed in 10,000 plus horsepower ground pounding 330 mPH dragsters and Funny Cars enjoying one of my favorite noisy sports.

We are friends with some of the top names in racing.

We were here when Brittney Force wrecked her Top Fuel Dragster.


Got to love drag racing.

Now back to work.

Jim
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
I put Gates radiator hoses on and 5/8" rubber hose on everything else. I wouldn't know a silicone hose if it turned into a snake and bit me. I got the 100% antifreeze in and of course it went in very slowly even with the heater hose off the top of the head. Took at least 1/2 hour to get it all in. Of course I spilled some and it got on the belt and it squealed for a long time even though I hosed it off. Took the truck for a short drive down the 405 fwy and the squealing finally stopped. Popped the hood and looked it over for leaks and I didn't see any so I'm calling the operation a success.
Edwin,
Silicone hose is what came factory on our trucks, it will have either a blue, green or red or black liner to the hose and is considered to be permanent,
It will cost you about $6.00 per foot to replace.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane
Edwin,
Silicone hose is what came factory on our trucks, it will have either a blue, green or red or black liner to the hose and is considered to be permanent,
It will cost you about $6.00 per foot to replace.
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That's good to know. I took one of those off the lower tube going into the intake fitting. It was dated 3Q89 so it was probably the original. All the others had been replaced before and were cracking. The elbow hose at the top front was split and about 20 minutes from leaking greatly so I got it just in time.

The spring for the lower radiator hose was very short and since the old spring was still good I reused it to ensure the hose wouldn't collapse.

Now I have to figure out what to do with the used coolant other than feeding it to the stray dogs in the neighborhood.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by edwinsmith
That's good to know. I took one of those off the lower tube going into the intake fitting. It was dated 3Q89 so it was probably the original. All the others had been replaced before and were cracking. The elbow hose at the top front was split and about 20 minutes from leaking greatly so I got it just in time.

The spring for the lower radiator hose was very short and since the old spring was still good I reused it to ensure the hose wouldn't collapse.

Now I have to figure out what to do with the used coolant other than feeding it to the stray dogs in the neighborhood.
Hey Edwin.

There are silicone hoses on eBay, that won't break the bank. Cummins 90deg hoses are, about $45 each. I paid $12 each on eBay, and they were high quality silicone.

That spring in the lower,hose isn't really needed. I've run it with and without for years, and it made no difference. I believe it was used at the factory for speed of install of the coolant, or so I read awhile back. Maybe. Maybe not. Works either way.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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Hey Edwin.

There are silicone hoses on eBay, that won't break the bank. Cummins 90deg hoses are, about $45 each. I paid $12 each on eBay, and they were high quality silicone.

That spring in the lower,hose isn't really needed. I've run it with and without for years, and it made no difference. I believe it was used at the factory for speed of install of the coolant, or so I read awhile back. Maybe. Maybe not. Works either way.
If the rubber hoses start leaking before I die I'll consider replacing them. I just wanted to get the job done and the rubber hose was cheap and available without ordering or hunting. As for the spring, I have seen hoses collapse under high rpm so I use them.

Here's a pic of a short 3/8 extension I was using to try and get that plug out of the head before I decided it wanted to stay right where is was.


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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:21 PM
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I have bent a cheap 3/8 extension in that plug before as well, now I use a snap-on 3/8 to 1/2 adapter and a 1/2 drive extension and breaker bar.
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
I have bent a cheap 3/8 extension in that plug before as well, now I use a snap-on 3/8 to 1/2 adapter and a 1/2 drive extension and breaker bar.
So glad to know I'm not the first.
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane
Edwin,
Silicone hose is what came factory on our trucks, it will have either a blue, green or red or black liner to the hose and is considered to be permanent,
It will cost you about $6.00 per foot to replace.
Jim
And is 10X easier to remove.
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 11:18 AM
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Well, I can’t see squat out of my passenger mirror, and it’s kind of tough to see out of the drivers side too. Since it looks like I should be headed out of Commiefornia around May (Moving EAST!) and pulling a 26’ X 8’ 6” enclosed, I’m debating ditching these Ford style mirrors in favor of some really ugly, but functional tow mirrors.... what do you guys think? I’m picking up the mirrors this week for about $30. Sure hate to be drilling more holes in the doors, but at least I’d be able to see.


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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 73CrewCab
Well, I can’t see squat out of my passenger mirror, and it’s kind of tough to see out of the drivers side too. Since it looks like I should be headed out of Commiefornia around May (Moving EAST!) and pulling a 26’ X 8’ 6” enclosed, I’m debating ditching these Ford style mirrors in favor of some really ugly, but functional tow mirrors.... what do you guys think? I’m picking up the mirrors this week for about $30. Sure hate to be drilling more holes in the doors, but at least I’d be able to see.


I would get some West Coast style mirrors if you are going to go with tow mirrors. You can even get some that are power adjustment and heated. The brackets they mount on also can fold in to the side of the truck like the factory mirrors if you ever need to squeeze through somewhere. I have seen some of the junior ones that telescope out too if you have a really wide trailer. I wish there was a better option for tow mirrors on these trucks. The stock ones flat-out suck and I don’t feel like welding a plate over my wing window. I know that, when done correctly, you can still open the wing window most of the way, but that’s not really my thing. Plus you are then forced to do more body work and paint unless you want to just prime it. My favorite tow mirror install on a first gen that I have seen so far is one where someone took the 3rd gen style mirror apart and put it on a post in the stock mount. I’ll find the thread and put the link here.
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stGEN'93


I would get some West Coast style mirrors if you are going to go with tow mirrors. You can even get some that are power adjustment and heated. The brackets they mount on also can fold in to the side of the truck like the factory mirrors if you ever need to squeeze through somewhere. I have seen some of the junior ones that telescope out too if you have a really wide trailer. I wish there was a better option for tow mirrors on these trucks. The stock ones flat-out suck and I don’t feel like welding a plate over my wing window. I know that, when done correctly, you can still open the wing window most of the way, but that’s not really my thing. Plus you are then forced to do more body work and paint unless you want to just prime it. My favorite tow mirror install on a first gen that I have seen so far is one where someone took the 3rd gen style mirror apart and put it on a post in the stock mount. I’ll find the thread and put the link here.
Here it is: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll-see-317510/
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stGEN'93
Looks like a better job than the triangle welded to the door by far! I love the mirrors on some of the newer Ford/Chevy/Dodge trucks functionally, but I’m not a fan of the black ABS look. I’ve considered West Coast and West Coast Jr. mirrors, but every diesel truck I’ve seen them on, they vibrate so badly, that you can’t see out of them (unless you spend $400-$500 a pair) The down side to these, as you pointed out, is that I can’t fold them in...and if I smack a small tree while wheeling in the woods, there goes my door. I’ve been staring at mirrors on trucks, busses, big rigs, vans... you name it, for months trying to figure out what to go with, or what I can modify. I’m kinda just giving up to put these on. At least they’re stainless so they fit the look/time era of a 73.... they’re functional, but I’m not exactly excited about them. If I do run these, I need to find a cherry set of front doors to swap out later
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