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Old May 28, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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550 Hp To The Ground

Ok looking at my sig I would like to get around 550hp to the ground with this truck. Now soon to come to this truck is a South Bend DD either a 3600 or 3850 not quite sure yet on that, then a II silver 62 ATS, exhaust manifold. I haul a 10K horse trailer about 3 to 4 days a week so I still use this as a daily driver but I would like to run this truck from time to time at the strip, I thought about getting bigger sticks as well any thoughts on all of this and when I do this ( minus the sticks) do you guys think I'll be around 550 or so? Thanks much appreciated
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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bridleman
Ok looking at my sig I would like to get around 550hp to the ground with this truck. Now soon to come to this truck is a South Bend DD either a 3600 or 3850 not quite sure yet on that, then a II silver 62 ATS, exhaust manifold. I haul a 10K horse trailer about 3 to 4 days a week so I still use this as a daily driver but I would like to run this truck from time to time at the strip, I thought about getting bigger sticks as well any thoughts on all of this and when I do this ( minus the sticks) do you guys think I'll be around 550 or so? Thanks much appreciated
What you got there and some Mach 4's with studs and a good fuel lift pump you should be nicely at 500ish

550hp would be asking a little to much for a tow rig unless you got twins
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Old May 28, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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one option is a 64/14 and a set of mach 4's. you will only dyno around 475-500 but thats really all your going to get out of a HO with out drugs.


The best way to get a towable, daily drivable 550 hp is to swap your vp to a SO pump, run mach 6's, the drag comp and the smarty, with a sps 62 over a b2 twin turbo setup. this of course will cost upwards of 10 grand, but its really the only way to get your 550 towable hp.

IMO, i would just stick a turbo on your truck and call it good. but i have been down the high hp road, and its really not all its cracked up to be....
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blackdiesel
...The best way to get a towable, daily drivable 550 hp is to swap your vp to a SO pump, run mach 6's, the drag comp and the smarty,
.... i have been down the high hp road, and its really not all its cracked up to be....
I would not tow 10,000 lbs in the mountains with Mach 6's....JMO
And I live down that road.... it's great.
Also, JMO

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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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i have towed well over 20k lbs in the ozark "mountians" with mach 6's and a smarty. it is doable and i made those trips on several occasions. you just got to know how to control it
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Old May 29, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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550 Hp To The Ground

So what I'm hearing is it will be real tough to get 550 out of this truck right now without twins and and I would guess the HO injection pump is going to screw me to.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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A high horse truck is fun to play with, BUT if you are using it to tow alot with, and work them like they were made for, about 100 or so extra hp is all your going to run with out working on something all the time. IMO
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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i have towed well over 20k lbs in the ozark "mountians" with mach 6's and a smarty. it is doable and i made those trips on several occasions. you just got to know how to control it
Well it shouldn't be too hard with a 6 speed. 500 rpms between gears so you can keep the revs wherever you want them =P I doubt an auto could have done as well with that combo. I do have to give you props for that wicked setup you had going before the detune

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So what I'm hearing is it will be real tough to get 550 out of this truck right now without twins and and I would guess the HO injection pump is going to screw me to.
And I've heard of a truck making 590 on fuel with a HO pump with some mach 5.7's but thats far from the norm- probably a lot of air was involved. So the pump might not hold you back too far from your goals. 95ram has reported that 180 hp was the biggest gain he saw from any stick on a eth/HO so there's no use going any bigger than that. Then if your vp44 fails down the road there are options that can net some more hp
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by blackdiesel
A high horse truck is fun to play with, BUT if you are using it to tow alot with, and work them like they were made for, about 100 or so extra hp is all your going to run with out working on something all the time. IMO

Im in the same boat as most of the HO 6 Spd guys. Im at the point where i need some sticks and a turbo. What about a ATS Aurora 5000?
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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So what I'm hearing is it will be real tough to get 550 out of this truck right now without twins and and I would guess the HO injection pump is going to screw me to.
It is very tough to get 550 out of a HO. It can be down, but will take $$$$$$$$$. Even with twins I couldn't get 550. When I dyno'd with twins I had my small set on (35/3b) and could only get 496 in 5th. I couldn't get a reading in 6th, but I'm positive it would have been over 500. If I would have had more time I'd of switched the 35 out with the 40 and gone agian, but I was tired and had a 4 hour drive home.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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I would just buy a set of DDP 4's or mach 4. With a fueling box you should be at 500rwhp area. The biggest limit is your injection pump. Towing that heavy is a too much for bigger sticks. IMO. Buy the turbo with the idea of twins down the road, it will help towing out as you'll increase your torque #'s. For long hard pulls 500rwhp will over heat your cooling system anyways. EGT's will be pegged. 500rwhp makes a nice daily driver that doesn't smoke out the road once you put a S400 on the bottom of your turbo.
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