General Diesel Discussion Talk about general diesel engines (theory, etc.) If it's about diesel, and it doesn't fit anywhere else, then put it right in here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

12 or 24...and other questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 09:32 AM
  #1  
mar6cus's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
12 or 24...and other questions

Hey guys...kind of a noob here looking for some advice. I'm searching around now for a truck and am trying to come up with any advantages/disadvantages of the 12V over the 24V or vice versa.

Please post up your preference of 12V or 24V and of course...why

Any other preferences or things that I should be looking for when searching? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

FYI...I'm looking for a quad cab long bed, not really planning on going over the top with modifications, but there will probably a few mods that find their way onto my truck...a heads up on any preventive maintenance items or such modifications would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Marcus
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:45 AM
  #2  
Dartmouth 12V's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: Hanover, NH
When you say 24V, are you looking at both 2nd and 3rd gen trucks?

Comparing 2nd gens, I prefer the 12V. The advantage that I see is a reliability and simplicity one. I am someone who doesn't trust electronics so I greatly prefer having a mechanical fuel injection system. The vp44(24V) definitely has some advantages over the P7100(12V) but it also does not last nearly as long. If you get a 24V, definitely get a fuel pressure gauge. If you are someone who doesn't mind a little wrenching, you can get a lot of power out of a 12V but it is easier and more driveable to just put a box on a 24V.

If you are including 3rd gen trucks, I would seriously look at one of them. They are much more refined than the 2nd gen trucks and much quieter. Also, if you are interested in an automatic tranny, they are much better.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #3  
wannadiesel's Avatar
Adminstrator-ess
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 22,594
Likes: 19
From: New Holland, PA
12 valve = less trouble, better mileage. But the trucks they are in are getting older and more troublesome.

If you decide you want a newer truck than a '98, I would skip to an '03 to get the commonrail fuel system. It's a much nicer truck and the commonrail system is more reliable than the VP44 pump on the 2nd gen 24 valves.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:22 PM
  #4  
96_12V's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
From: Northern Iowa
Originally Posted by wannadiesel
12 valve = less trouble, better mileage. But the trucks they are in are getting older and more troublesome.

If you decide you want a newer truck than a '98, I would skip to an '03 to get the commonrail fuel system. It's a much nicer truck and the commonrail system is more reliable than the VP44 pump on the 2nd gen 24 valves.
Completely agreed - Mine isn't so much about the engine these days, it's the rest of the truck around the engine. And while that old rattly 12V is nice, it's getting a little loud and "old" for taking on the long trips I like to.

I'll probably be looking for an '05 - '06 G-56 6-speed Common-rail truck when funds will allow for it. Until then, I just hope I've replaced all the important parts that are going to wear out...
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:51 PM
  #5  
N.Johnson's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: B.C. Canada
FYI...I'm looking for a quad cab long bed,

That kind of narrows it down to third gens
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 11:49 PM
  #6  
displacedtexan's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,337
Likes: 0
From: Place with no quail:(
Dodge calls the rear cab doors on the extended cabs a quad cab
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:07 AM
  #7  
mar6cus's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Thanks a lot for the info...I hadn't really given a lot of thought to 03 and later...mostly because they are a little out of my price range however I suppose it may be worth looking into.

Is there anything that you can do to help prevent problems with the fuel pumps? That seams to be the biggest problem that I've read about. Are the fuel pumps really just that bad or is there some other problem that leads to fuel pump failure?

Thanks
Marcus
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:48 AM
  #8  
hipsi's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
From: Richmond Hill, Ontario
VP44's are getting cheaper and more reliable, don't let that scare you off.. There is also a video that another member made showing the complete removal and install of a VP44.. If your handy and have the time it's not the end of the world to do one.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
royta
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
13
Feb 24, 2005 07:46 PM
boiler-rat
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
5
Dec 1, 2004 06:57 PM
mufasa
24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
25
May 12, 2004 06:06 PM
Patrick Campbell
3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years
5
Sep 28, 2003 11:03 AM
Chris_O
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
9
Sep 19, 2003 07:02 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:24 AM.