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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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I replaced the petcock with a plug. I can get just as much or more coolant out with a siphon hose through the radiator cap hole, and not have to lay on my back to do it, or deal with it splashing all over frame and steering.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 06:40 PM
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Yup; I ended up with a 3/8" headed NPT plug instead of the Dorman petcock and its easy enough to spin it off with a ratchet wrench to drain.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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I never use the petcock. Most of the time they are clogged anyway. I usually just put a bucket or pan under the vehicle and pull the lower radiator hose from the rad then take the cap off. I try to do this near vegetation I don't care about. Drains WAY quicker!
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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How are you guys removing the petcock? I twisted off the turn tabs awhile back and had to tighten up the threads sticking out w/ v- grips and have a dorman replacement. But it looks like my OEM petcock was brazed on! My future plan was to yank out the radiator at next coolant change and figure something out like drill out and re braze a threaded portion to accept the dorman replacement. Honestly, I can't tell because the oem pc is painted black...so is it really truly a threaded on piece?
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
I replaced the petcock with a plug. I can get just as much or more coolant out with a siphon hose through the radiator cap hole, and not have to lay on my back to do it, or deal with it splashing all over frame and steering.
I wanted to replace the plug in my Mishimoto radiator with a ball valve. Of course, the bung has metric threads. Any idea how hard it is to find a metric to NPT adapter?? Nearly impossible. Unless I didn't look hard enough but I scoured the internet and found not much that wouldn't cost me too much just for shipping. I ended up just using the plug they supplied with it. I can still use an old lower radiator hose to direct the coolant into a 5gal bucket, I suppose. We'll see how that goes when the time comes.
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
I replaced the petcock with a plug. I can get just as much or more coolant out with a siphon hose through the radiator cap hole, and not have to lay on my back to do it, or deal with it splashing all over frame and steering.

That is so simple I'm almost ashamed I never thought of it....good thing I don't feel shame though.

T-Man....thank you for posting up on how to clean the rad out. I'm still using the original unit from 1993 in the crewcab....and it could use a freshening up.
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bigragu
How are you guys removing the petcock?

But it looks like my OEM petcock was brazed on

.so is it really truly a threaded on piece?
In my case, the rad shop had to "un braze the original petcock, and braze in a new bung. The new bung is threaded to accept a regular petcock.

That's why I brought it there in the first place. The guys at the rad shop said they never use the petcock, but they pull the lower hose off. Has to do with the speed of which getting the cars back out of the shop.
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo486
I wanted to replace the plug in my Mishimoto radiator with a ball valve. Of course, the bung has metric threads. Any idea how hard it is to find a metric to NPT adapter?? Nearly impossible. Unless I didn't look hard enough but I scoured the internet and found not much that wouldn't cost me too much just for shipping. I ended up just using the plug they supplied with it. I can still use an old lower radiator hose to direct the coolant into a 5gal bucket, I suppose. We'll see how that goes when the time comes.
I'm willing to bet that if you call Mishimoto, they'd be able to sell you a petcock for it.

I've had my M radiator out several times for various reasons. I just stick about a 1/2 inch siphon hose in the right tank through the neck and dump it into a 5 gallon bucket. It's both faster and neater than using a petcock you can barely reach.
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 07:12 AM
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Pulling the lower rad. hose off sure gets thing flowing quickly!

I have even used a knife to pop a small cut/hole into the lower rad hose.
I then stick a few inches of metal brake line or the like in there, to get it sending the stream right into a clean 5 gallon bucket.

It doesn't do the lower rad hose any favors, but if done right, it can be a pretty clean way to drain the rad as well.
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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decided to follow J's lead.

I removed the petcock, and it's amazing how small the diameter of the exit is. So I just put in a plug, and I'm good to go. To drain it will be very easy, as a 9/16 shortie rachet or wrench, and it's pouring out.

Back up and running, and now I get to go test it out..
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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Back to the front fender marker/turn signal lamp.

Replacing it with an LED lamp and the resulting problems have been discussed at length. Proposed has been re-wiring, relays, bridge diodes, etc to solve the problem.

This outfit (M4) specializes in LEDs for RV's. where half the fixtures are wired backwards. Thus, if possible, they build the diode steering circuit into the lamps, eliminating the problem.

The closest lamp they have to a 168 size is this one. It's a little bit smaller than a 912 lamp, puts out 360 lumens, and draws .13A. I plan to re-lamp my entire camper with them.

Elite Series Wedge Base Retrofit Bulb
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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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anyone know where to find collar (ball socket) and snap ring for shifter stub on 93 getrag, bought a truck in pieces, and this is a couple pieces i need. or dimensions would help also.. I ,m also looking for pics of the underside of 2WD with getrag to figure out this box of brackets an supports i have. Its a 93 extended cab thanks
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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Here is how I drain mine, installed it when the radiator was new and it is still working fine.
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There are 2) 45*'s,
2) close nipples,
1/4" NPT ball valve
And a cap.

Jim
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
Back to the front fender marker/turn signal lamp.

Replacing it with an LED lamp and the resulting problems have been discussed at length. Proposed has been re-wiring, relays, bridge diodes, etc to solve the problem.

This outfit (M4) specializes in LEDs for RV's. where half the fixtures are wired backwards. Thus, if possible, they build the diode steering circuit into the lamps, eliminating the problem.

The closest lamp they have to a 168 size is this one. It's a little bit smaller than a 912 lamp, puts out 360 lumens, and draws .13A. I plan to re-lamp my entire camper with them.

Elite Series Wedge Base Retrofit Bulb
I've run across some 194 LED replacements recently that, in diagrams, pointed to bridge rectifiers built into the assembly. Tiny little things! I was going to buy a couple to wire up to my side markers and tried for the life of me to find your post about how to wire one of those things yet, I couldn't find it for some reason. I searched for diagrams and couldn't quite get a definitive answer so I scrapped the idea and wired them solely as running lights.

My truck didn't have a 4-way connector to disassemble and tap like Jim Lane's does. So I rewired the front lighting with a 4-way square Weatherpack connector.

When it came to a flasher for the turn signal and hazards, I picked up 2 flasher from VLEDS. These flashers simply have an electronic timer in them, no coil or circuit breaker as any ordinary flasher would have. With LEDs front and rear, it remedies all issues you encounter with LEDs; hyperflashing, no flashing and bulb out indicators. It did just what it says it does. Mine had no hyperflashing but it did have bulb out indicators and would only flash intermittently. Now, it works flawlessly. The one for our trucks can be found here... 2 PIN ELECTRONIC LED FLASHER BLINKER FIX 1157 3157 7443 EFL2 - Flashers.

I also installed some brighter LEDs in my reverse lights. Also from VLEDS. Said to be rated at 1000 lumens. 6K WHITE HIGH OUTPUT 21 LED BACK-UP LIGHT 1156 1000LM | 1 PAIR - 1156 - Reverse Back-Up - Shop Bulb Type
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo486
I've run across some 194 LED replacements recently that, in diagrams, pointed to bridge rectifiers built into the assembly. Tiny little things! I was going to buy a couple to wire up to my side markers and tried for the life of me to find your post about how to wire one of those things yet, I couldn't find it for some reason. I searched for diagrams and couldn't quite get a definitive answer so I scrapped the idea and wired them solely as running lights.

My truck didn't have a 4-way connector to disassemble and tap like Jim Lane's does. So I rewired the front lighting with a 4-way square Weatherpack connector.

When it came to a flasher for the turn signal and hazards, I picked up 2 flasher from VLEDS. These flashers simply have an electronic timer in them, no coil or circuit breaker as any ordinary flasher would have. With LEDs front and rear, it remedies all issues you encounter with LEDs; hyperflashing, no flashing and bulb out indicators. It did just what it says it does. Mine had no hyperflashing but it did have bulb out indicators and would only flash intermittently. Now, it works flawlessly. The one for our trucks can be found here... 2 PIN ELECTRONIC LED FLASHER BLINKER FIX 1157 3157 7443 EFL2 - Flashers.

I also installed some brighter LEDs in my reverse lights. Also from VLEDS. Said to be rated at 1000 lumens. 6K WHITE HIGH OUTPUT 21 LED BACK-UP LIGHT 1156 1000LM | 1 PAIR - 1156 - Reverse Back-Up - Shop Bulb Type
Those backup lights are brighter than my headlights. Now I really feel bad about having to strike a match to check if my headlights are on.
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