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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 04:30 PM
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I was born in Kansas but I consider myself an honorary RedNeck since my mom was born in a Kentucky coal camp. I know lots of ways to git-er-done!
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bigragu
Edwin, that control on your last pic, to the right, is that to aid in warm up by increasing idle? Is that how it came from the factory, or aftermarket?

Another thing- is not it too freakin hot to be disassembling a dash right now? Your garage climate controlled?

Originally Posted by oliver foster
Those high idle unit have been discontinued, I would assume most due to liability from them being used a redneck cruise units.
I have one on my white crew cab to help warm it up in the morning or if I want it to charge the battery quicker - Like when I am using my winch that runs of the battery. They are aftermarket old school parts I believe.
Augie and Oliver....that is a factory high idle set-up, I purchased a set-up years ago and have it on my crewcab. If I remember correctly they were only used on the 89, and maybe 90's as well, 1st Gen with a 5spd and 4wd.

I love my set-up they are great for the winter months you can bump the idle just a hair and leave the truck running. Probably about 1500rpm is the max you can get out of the OEM system. Will probably be leaving Patches idle all night when the temps drop into the -25*C and colder.....less overall damage to the equipment that way.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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That is the only place I have seen them on the early 1st gen NON I/Ced trucks I have used for parts donors for my crew cabs and such. Since I only see them on some of the '89/'90s and not others, I was just guessing they where added after the fact by the original owners.

Good to see you Thrashing! Any progress on the shop?
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oliver foster
That is the only place I have seen them on the early 1st gen NON I/Ced trucks I have used for parts donors for my crew cabs and such. Since I only see them on some of the '89/'90s and not others, I was just guessing they where added after the fact by the original owners.

Good to see you Thrashing! Any progress on the shop?
Thanks for confirming my sometimes faulty memory on the high idle assembly.

As for the shop.....that turned into a NO GO!!

Problems with contractors.....first it was tough to find ones willing to do the work (small community with lots of houses being built). Then once I found a couple and we met and I was issued a quote, both were missing certain parts of the construction in the quote.....so had to wait, and wait, and wait for a re-quote. But didn't get that all sorted out until just a couple weeks ago, but it's to late in the year to get it built before winter sets in....much sadness.

So guess it's another winter of working outside in the cold. Hope to have it all lined up for construction next June when the road weight restrictions are lifted in my area, so the concrete trucks can get out here legally.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
Thanks for confirming my sometimes faulty memory on the high idle assembly.

As for the shop.....that turned into a NO GO!!

Problems with contractors.....first it was tough to find ones willing to do the work (small community with lots of houses being built). Then once I found a couple and we met and I was issued a quote, both were missing certain parts of the construction in the quote.....so had to wait, and wait, and wait for a re-quote. But didn't get that all sorted out until just a couple weeks ago, but it's to late in the year to get it built before winter sets in....much sadness.

So guess it's another winter of working outside in the cold. Hope to have it all lined up for construction next June when the road weight restrictions are lifted in my area, so the concrete trucks can get out here legally.
where do you live why are there weight restrictions
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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Most anybody that lives in the snow belt has weight restrictions in the spring. The restriction are put in place when the ground starts to unthaw, for us it's general a 6 week period that we have road restrictions in place. So if you don't live on a 9 ton or heavier road you cannot haul much of anything in or out.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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king pins brake lines axel U joints to cure death wobble . IT was crazy within the span of 2weeks it went from a minor vibration to a big wobble ,eventhough I greased the crap out of it bottom bearings gacked and the top bushings were shot suprising the wobble didnt start earlier . just a word to canucks who are planning this job get all the parts in a package like from yukon or one of the 4 wheel shops . I was stuck for time and had to source parts locally even with my deep discount I got hosed and had to settle for moog jina crap the moog kits had seals bearings and the top bushings nothing else not even grease nipples grrrrr raybestos mispackaged the hoses grrrr oh well bottom line no more weeeble wobble
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 08:12 PM
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TCows- on the bright side, maybe the "xtras" you wanted in your shop weren't in the budget this year, but may be next year. Plus it'll give you more ideas to come up with to add to the build.
Are your plans all drawn up? What type of roof and underlayment you planning on? If it was a metal roof and if you weren't miles from me I'd assist you with it.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by deere country
Most anybody that lives in the snow belt has weight restrictions in the spring. The restriction are put in place when the ground starts to unthaw, for us it's general a 6 week period that we have road restrictions in place. So if you don't live on a 9 ton or heavier road you cannot haul much of anything in or out.
I'm in South Carolina it doesn't get that cold here I've never heard of restrictions but it makes sense
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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that sucks TC
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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here at work we have been buying those steel 40ft shipping pods and building big VFD houses with drives and an office all AC and nice lights, I can't get my mind to stop thinking about getting a couple of them and hooking them together and doing some fab work where you would cut out the touching walls and make a 16ftx40ft steel shop with a nice wood floor, I think for 4k you can get a couple, it would be almost bullet proof when done.



I have a 30x40x10 and wish I would have made the side walls 12, so I could pull in a camper to work on.

but its like all of you have heard many times ( If you have a 100x200x16 building it still wouldn't be big enough.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
but its like all of you have heard many times ( If you have a 100x200x16 building it still wouldn't be big enough.
Isnt that the truth. My dad and I are putting an addition onto the shop we built 2 years ago. With this we will have one end for storage and the other end as the work shop. Already thinking we will have just barely enough room for what we presently own lol.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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there is a group in Maine restoring a steam engine, and that's what they did, bought a few of those shipping containers to use for storage and a shop.


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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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A guy down the road from me put two 20 ft containers about 20 feet apart and and built a pitched roof between them. Storage in one container. Shop in the other. Cover to work under. He also considered putting them 15' apart and putting one on RR tie risers with a flat roof between them so it would drain.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1STGENFARMBOY
here at work we have been buying those steel 40ft shipping pods and building big VFD houses with drives and an office all AC and nice lights, I can't get my mind to stop thinking about getting a couple of them and hooking them together and doing some fab work where you would cut out the touching walls and make a 16ftx40ft steel shop with a nice wood floor, I think for 4k you can get a couple, it would be almost bullet proof when done.



I have a 30x40x10 and wish I would have made the side walls 12, so I could pull in a camper to work on.

but its like all of you have heard many times ( If you have a 100x200x16 building it still wouldn't be big enough.
Originally Posted by MrFusion
A guy down the road from me put two 20 ft containers about 20 feet apart and and built a pitched roof between them. Storage in one container. Shop in the other. Cover to work under. He also considered putting them 15' apart and putting one on RR tie risers with a flat roof between them so it would drain.
I did consider that as a method to building a shop quickly and cheaply(?). I was considering two 40' cans stacked on each side, with a 20' area in the center then trusses, and framing the center area in....etc, would end up with a 40x40x20 tall structure.

But I crunched a bunch of the numbers and with the cost of the cans, and trying to insulate them, and open them up from the sides so I could have access and storage....etc, etc. There was little to no cost savings over having a shop built of sticks.
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