Turbo diesel bike
04-24-2006, 10:48 PM
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Turbo diesel bike
Have you guys seen the Neander 1400 diesel motorcycle? 1,400 cc, 94 HP, twin crank. What a cool machine. Diesels are really coming of age. It's in the June Cruiser magazine or at the Neander web site.
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04-24-2006, 11:52 PM
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I havent seen it but thanks for pointing it out. While searching for it I found several turbodiesel bikes and a couple of them seem like they could be pretty cool. The problem with the sportbike crowd is that they want what people actually race, but the problem is no matter how fast you ride on the street its WAY different than on a track.
On the street a 600 feels slow compared to a liter bike, but on the track they really arent that far apart. Mainly because on the street you arent banging off the rev limiter constantly. The street is where a diesel might really excel. By having the midrange that makes a sportbike fun on the street.
On the street a 600 feels slow compared to a liter bike, but on the track they really arent that far apart. Mainly because on the street you arent banging off the rev limiter constantly. The street is where a diesel might really excel. By having the midrange that makes a sportbike fun on the street.
04-25-2006, 12:30 AM
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I've never been a big fan of the twin crank concept, but after looking at their pictures, it makes a lot of sense for a diesel. I'm a little nervous about the two rods supporting the piston because if their support becomes uneven (worn crank gear, worn rod bearing, worn wrist pin, etc.) it seems like there would be an unfair load on the piston skirt. But, on the power stroke, I like the nearly straight push on the rods and the natural balance of the design. It looks like a design that could handle very high boost, enhancing horsepower to weight, and further advancing the diesel advantage.
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What's not to like
I wonder if it'll get 100 mpg
That's awesome, but I calculated the price at $86K
Hopefully the idea catches on and we see some turbo diesel bikes soon.
04-25-2006, 01:49 AM
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Yeah, the price is WAY outta here. It might have been better to prove the design in a more conventional bike. In this case everything is non standard and everything is under scrutiny, when it's the engine that is the only important thing on the bike. Do you need 4 fork stanchions to prove the diesel concept? Uhhh, no. The actual test bike has a regular "upside down" fork, a totally different rear section and swing arm, sort of a soft tail look. Fine, but the engine is the whole deal, that's what it's all about. I love seeing something so different that works.
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04-26-2006, 05:33 AM
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i know that the usmc has had a diesel powered dirt bike out for a while its a klr650 . i heard it has like 38hp and spins to like 7k
http://www.dieselmotorcycles.com/
http://www.dieselmotorcycles.com/military.htm#bike1
ENGINE:
Type: 4-Stroke, IDI, single cylinder, liquid cooled.
Displacement: 611cc
Power: 30 PS @ 5700 RPM
Torque: 33 ft-lbs @ 4200 RPM
Lubrication: Wet sump, compatible with MIL-L-2104 lubricant.
Air Filtration: High capacity, 3-stage, oiled foam, reusable
Transmission: 5-speed, constant mesh, return shift.
Final Drive: Self lubricated, sealed, O-ring roller chain
WEIGHTS & MEASUREMENTS:
Dry Weight: 369 lbs
Max Width: 35.75 inches
Max Length: 85 inches
Wheel Base: 57 inches
Ground Clearance: 10.7 inches
FUEL: Diesel/Aviation Kerosene (JP8)/ Biodiesel
PERFORMANCE:
Acceleration: 0-30 mph (53 kph), 3.3 sec 0-60 mph (106 kph), 9.7 sec
Gradeability: 60% (32E)
Turning Radius: Less than 7 feet
Maximum Speed: In excess of 90 mph.
Minimum Constant Speed: Less than 3 mph.
Fording Depth: 24 inches
Fuel Mileage: 96 mpg @ 55 mph (Tested)
Range: 408 miles @ 55 mph
Type: 4-Stroke, IDI, single cylinder, liquid cooled.
Displacement: 611cc
Power: 30 PS @ 5700 RPM
Torque: 33 ft-lbs @ 4200 RPM
Lubrication: Wet sump, compatible with MIL-L-2104 lubricant.
Air Filtration: High capacity, 3-stage, oiled foam, reusable
Transmission: 5-speed, constant mesh, return shift.
Final Drive: Self lubricated, sealed, O-ring roller chain
WEIGHTS & MEASUREMENTS:
Dry Weight: 369 lbs
Max Width: 35.75 inches
Max Length: 85 inches
Wheel Base: 57 inches
Ground Clearance: 10.7 inches
FUEL: Diesel/Aviation Kerosene (JP8)/ Biodiesel
PERFORMANCE:
Acceleration: 0-30 mph (53 kph), 3.3 sec 0-60 mph (106 kph), 9.7 sec
Gradeability: 60% (32E)
Turning Radius: Less than 7 feet
Maximum Speed: In excess of 90 mph.
Minimum Constant Speed: Less than 3 mph.
Fording Depth: 24 inches
Fuel Mileage: 96 mpg @ 55 mph (Tested)
Range: 408 miles @ 55 mph
The civilian version was due for release this spring, but has been pushed back due to increased military production.
The first civilian bikes were supposed to go for around $18,000 and get 102 mpg.
04-26-2006, 08:53 AM
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Slap on that 1.6liter VW diesel engine to a Honda!!
This is what you get:
http://www.dieselkrad.info/index.php...&sub=cbr1600td
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More on diesel bikes:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html
http://www.motorbikestoday.com/featu...esel_bikes.htm
This is what you get:
http://www.dieselkrad.info/index.php...&sub=cbr1600td
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More on diesel bikes:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html
http://www.motorbikestoday.com/featu...esel_bikes.htm
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