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I don't know what you mean by geometry for the pitman. The Pitman just links the box to the draglink on a lower plane. The only geometry involved is the draglink, and if the truck is lifted without addressing this the steering geometry is wrong.
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I'll post back what I find...
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Found it, post #94.
Here's the link: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...6&postcount=94
Looks as though a pitman arm with an additional 2" of drop won't require an angle change, as it's going to move the drag link further down.
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Here's the link: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...6&postcount=94
Looks as though a pitman arm with an additional 2" of drop won't require an angle change, as it's going to move the drag link further down.
Sorry
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Its the stud that connects the drag link to the pitman arm that is what can hit the tie rod on the new style setups under suspension compression. The updated pitman arm has less of an angle on the drag link end so the stud will clear the tie rod at full compression. I would also be interested in seeing this drop pitman arm and how the angles relate to the old and new style OEM pitman arms.
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Yeah, I don't know about that. My new tire rods and draglink went on with the old pitman, initially. The droids that installed it didn't seem to care, but that's to be expected. Then I replaced the pitman myself. The steal-er boys were probably hoping I'd be back in another year for new tie rods again after it was out of warranty, but that ain't happenin'. 
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Found it, post #94.
Here's the link: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...6&postcount=94
Looks as though a pitman arm with an additional 2" of drop won't require an angle change, as it's going to move the drag link further down.
Sorry
Here's the link: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...6&postcount=94
Looks as though a pitman arm with an additional 2" of drop won't require an angle change, as it's going to move the drag link further down.
Sorry
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The only drawback to the old style is the draglink joints are clocked a bit more, but I checked it lock-to-lock and it does not bind. This is basically a result of Dodge just going ahead and slapping new hardware on old trucks to band-aid a problem. But if I was having it done under warranty on a truck without any lift, I'd be checking it real close.
Then remind them they also need to do the pitman.
Then remind them they also need to do the pitman.
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Looks like you're wrong again, hound. Have you actually been under one of these trucks with this particular hardware? Don't forget we're talking about at least two inches lift:
I'd go take a picture, but I'd rather not.
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They should, James. My dealership did. I've never had DW before and frankly don't have any issues with the old-style setup. However, since it came out in '08 and was available on some '08s but not MY '08 I almost feel obligated to go get the free, bigger, beefier parts...lol
mcolectd--check the bolts on your track bar. i don't have the torque specs in front of me for these two bolts but they are somewhere around 175ft. lbs. If they are even a little loose, they can cause a clunking while turning like you are describing. Also, with your leveling kit, you might want to consider an adjustable track bar. It will recenter your axle under the truck and a unit like the one sold by Don Thuren is MUCH beefier than the stock unit.
mcolectd--check the bolts on your track bar. i don't have the torque specs in front of me for these two bolts but they are somewhere around 175ft. lbs. If they are even a little loose, they can cause a clunking while turning like you are describing. Also, with your leveling kit, you might want to consider an adjustable track bar. It will recenter your axle under the truck and a unit like the one sold by Don Thuren is MUCH beefier than the stock unit.
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Hard to tell from those pics, but that looks like it, although the tubing size seems smaller in those pics. Maybe they have different sizes of the same parts? There's better pics earlier in the thread....
