Mark, after crawling under the truck earlier, I have to keep this one to myself for now. Not because I don't want to share, but because I'm now forced to rethink things a bit after what I saw on the bottom of the tank. My plan may now have to be readjusted slightly. I could use a pic of the inside of the tank on the bottom with no fuel in it. Because I have a doubt that anyone would have one of those, I may have to pump the tank dry to see exactly how I'm going to apply my ideas.

Do you have two half moon shaped molds inward from the bottom of your tank as well? Kinda looks like the OE canister would sit on the bottom of the tank in the middle of them?

3 bolts for the box on either side - one up front and two rear, correct? Instead of taking the box right off, if I remove the driver's side bolts and just loosen the passenger side bolts, would I be able to tilt it for enough room to work?

 

as soon as I got all done ups showed up with the raptor mount so im just going to hold onto it. I spliced into that wire and nothing happened. it was connected at the tank I double checked becuase the sender works fine, I spliced into that wire using a butt connector and nothing happened. I went off the fuse panel for heated seats because my truck doesnt have them and that works good so far. now im waiting on a fitting for 1/2 line so I can get my fuel pressure gauge working again. then i should be able to work on other projects .
thanks for all the help mark and a good price on the airdog

 

btt for Mark to see some questions.

I......oh....nevermind.

 

Sorry Festus I was out of town for the last few days with out a computer...I was having DTR withdraws

I dont have any pics of the inside of the tank...sorry

 

Thanks Mark.

My ideas and progression with this will be suspended a little longer than I planned. My work schedule is changing and I'm having trouble finding parts - specifically diesel immersible hose and bulkhead fittings that are smaller in diameter than the AD supplied one.

I'm sure they're available somewhere around here, but I just haven't found them yet.

 

Wow I had to search through a bunch of pages to find these posts!
Since the day I read 06 Diesel's post about his hose deteriorating I have been doing a lil' science project.....well not much science too it really

Anyway I put some diesel in a sealed plastic container maybe an 1.5" deep and submerged a piece of that hose. That was on 3-8 08. Almost 2 months ago!

After reading Festus' post today I went and checked on it. I ran my fingernail down that hose about 20 times trying to scrape it pretty hard and guess what.....no shavings no flaking nothing. It wasn't soft it feels just like the leftover hose I have that hasn't been submerged. So by all means find whatever hose you feel like using, but I'm telling you, the blue hose that is supplied with the airdog should work fine.

Identification on the hose reads: BOSTON EASY COUPLE H20108 1/2" (12.7 MM) 250 PSI (1.72 Mpa) MADE IN USA 082407 //--

Just a heads up.

note: it might not be rated for submersion, but I'm sure as heck convinced that it could be! Somebody can look it up or call the manufacturer or whatever just gettin' the info. out

EDIT: I didn't do this to prove anyone wrong or anything. I did it cause I was concerned after reading 06 diesel's post. I really did'nt want a bunch of hose flaking off in my tank.
Roy

 

Let us know what the hose is like after a couple days of being in the air. Try bending and look for cracks. I'm really curious to see if it will stay intact after ambient air has a chance to oxidize it a bit.

Has anyone ever called / emailed Pureflow to see if the hose is submersible rated?

I'm not asking to be a smart allec...............I'm genuinely curious to see what the hose will do in air after submerged for that period of time. Let's just say a continuation of your experiment to resemble normal service - submerged, then open to air, and then reversed again for another round.

You might be on to something.

 

that's good info Roy...I dont think the hose that comes with the Airdogs and the Raptors is rated for submersion..it IS diesel rated hose..just not rated for submersion....that does not mean it wont last a long time submerged it just means I was to scared to find out when or if it does breakdown....lol..(even more after 06 DIESEL post)..I am a worry wort like that..keep the hose out of the jar for a while and then put it back in the jar for another month or 2 and let us know how the hose holds up.nice job!

 

I'll go pull it out of the container right now......the experiment continues

I know this is not really a big deal or anything, but I would feel better about this whole deal if we had a mad scientist smilie that I could insert above

Edit: it will also let me know if I have to perhaps go back into the tank and make a slight modification!!!
Roy

 

Sorry.......but it had to be brought up. I could not let an experiment go unfinished.

I'm not sure that it even needs to go that long. I think in for a day or two and then out for a day or two and keep reversing would be more representative of normal service in reference to the fueling up and using it cycle.



EDIT: Btw, what's the approximate O.D. of the OE canister? I have me another idea going and have to get one of the boys at the plant to build me something....................

 

LOL! First check of the hose complete at 21.5 hours . Hose has dried out completely no diesel left on it and it is still pliable. Tried the fingernail scratch test, still not getting anything off of it. Last night I put another chunk of hose in the container to replace the other one this new one I will remove every other day or as I remember it. It has a v cut into one end so I won't get them confused. The first one I will leave out for a week or 2 and then I will repeat this for a while and see what happens.

This should simulate fairly well the guy who fills up every week or 2. And also the guys who fill up very frequently.

Any other suggestions?

Hey Mark! I'm sorry to clutter up your thread so much If you want I can take my silly little experiment elsewhere if it bothers you.....let me know.

EDIT: You can PM Shagginwagon about the canister dimensions. He is a member here and my stock canister resides at his home while he is pondering what route he wants to go with his lift pump. I figured it would be helpful for him to have it in hand for the decision making process of his install when he gets around to it. Anyway he should be able to give you some measurements.

 

No more suggestions. Just curious to see the outcome. I work all the way to the 15th, so my first day available to round up parts will be the 16th. That gives the experiment a good two weeks. For me to ponder stuff and source.

Thanks - sent Shagginwagon a PM. I'd tell you guys about the reason for canister dimensions, but I would be embarrassed if it didn't work. I'm thinking far too hard again.

How does the canister sit in the tank - spring arms to the front of the truck?

 

I know what your thinking...I thought about trying it if my last mod did not work..but I have been happy with this so I will leave it...I already had the bed off 3x so I am trying not to do a 4th...lol

 

I just looked through the pics I have on my computer and I am pretty dang sure the springs are to the front of the tank. So if you were standing on the driverside of the tank the armature that has the float on it goes to the front of the tank as well. That arm is towards the center of the truck.

I was thinking about creating my own pickup as well out of some pvc or other material that wouldn't break down in diesel, but the float kinda gave me pause. You would have to have that float so you could see how much fuel you have in there?

Anyway.....yes to the front

 

I sent a PM back to ya'. I've been at work for the past couple of days, so unable to get the measurements until tonight--tomorrow at the latest.

How ya' doin' Roy? I still got some raingear and DumDum at my house for ya' too.