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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 01:31 AM
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Special tools for timing case replacement?

Well, yet again my much loved Cummins has left me with a mess to fix, the KDP, which the PO swore was tabbed got me.
Good thing my worn out old pile of a 7.3 psd just refuses to die... LOL

Anywho, I need to plow snow and the Ford gets about 10 mpg less than the Dodge, so I need to get this thing fixed.
I am going to attempt to temporarily seal it up this coming weekend, but since I found the dowel pin sitting on top of the timing case behind the fan hub, I don't hold a whole lot of hope for what I am going to find once I pull the front drive off.

I have a new timing case en route, and shop time is very limited, so I would like to get any special tools that make life easier rather than have the truck down any longer than needed.
Any suggestions?
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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I have never done it, but I believe that you have to remove the camshaft. This involves supporting the lifters so that they don't fall out, because the are installed from below with the engine upside down at the factory. Here is a cam changing thread from the sticky. There doesn't appear to be a timing case repair thread in the sticky, so take some pics and you can be the first. Good luck...Mark
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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a few of the pins ive seen ejected from the case push out of the cover lip leaving the aluminum intact, when the case loosens to walking movement, youll trace leakage from both sides of the case, usually the retightening of bolts holding case will take care of the backside, clean and locktite case bolts, most front covers are repairable, its easy to make the kdp tab. worst case failures will spread gears resulting in block failure, in dozens of cases ive taken apart, ive never seen that, myself, when you see oil traces below the fan hub, that's the first indication of the case getting loose, it will look like a front seal leaking from below.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:02 AM
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Here is a thread from diesel bombers site that talks about the timing case removal...Mark
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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You might be luckier than you thought, mine spit the pin clean out and was wedged down by the vacuum pump, and that chunk broken was the only mark in the case.

Cummins pulls the cam gear rather than pulling the cam now. You need a really good posilock type puller though. They claim it saves mucho time on the repair, I have never done one though.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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I pulled the cam gear when I did mine. Heat to 350 in an oven then slide back on. No rocker/pushrod removal, or making pins to hold lifters.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Well, it still runs, and I had to drive it for a week while it was puking oil all over the place, so I doubt there is any damage other than the case/cover. Really hope I can get it sealed up this weekend, 1st gear syncro in the Ford exploded tonight...
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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You're having a nice run of bad luck. You should be able to pull the cam half or a 1/3 out and get the timing case off. Shouldn't have to pull it all the way out. Just make sure it stays clean. You will still have to have a dowel hold all the tappets up out of the way tho.

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