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Getrag transmissions have 3 real major problems but they can be solved.
The first is really not a fault of the trans but of the manufacturer of the truck. The pilot bushing that Dodge installed in the early trucks was not even close to good enough to do the job handed to it. They fail usually within 50000 miles, or less, of installation and in doing so cause the input shaft to not have any forward support. This leads to the shaft wobbling around and in turn wearing out the input bearing which leads to too much bearing play which causes the mainshaft bearings to self destruct.
The next problem comes from the rear mainshaft bearing not receiving enough oil. This causes the bearing to seize and spin the outer race in the case. It can be prevented by overfilling the case from 3.5 qts to 5 qts.
The third problem is that the countershaft bearings are not large enough for the application. If the truck is stock power and is never overloaded then they are fine. If you "hop it up" or tow really heavy loads then they are asked to go beyond their means. This is not so much of an issue if you use good oil and overfill as stated above.
I personally like my Getrag and will never trade it for an NV4500. They are easy to rebuild (after you get 'em out of the truck, they're really heavy) and are an all around good transmission if you use good synthetic oil in them ( I use Amsoil 5w-30w) and overfill them.
The first is really not a fault of the trans but of the manufacturer of the truck. The pilot bushing that Dodge installed in the early trucks was not even close to good enough to do the job handed to it. They fail usually within 50000 miles, or less, of installation and in doing so cause the input shaft to not have any forward support. This leads to the shaft wobbling around and in turn wearing out the input bearing which leads to too much bearing play which causes the mainshaft bearings to self destruct.
The next problem comes from the rear mainshaft bearing not receiving enough oil. This causes the bearing to seize and spin the outer race in the case. It can be prevented by overfilling the case from 3.5 qts to 5 qts.
The third problem is that the countershaft bearings are not large enough for the application. If the truck is stock power and is never overloaded then they are fine. If you "hop it up" or tow really heavy loads then they are asked to go beyond their means. This is not so much of an issue if you use good oil and overfill as stated above.
I personally like my Getrag and will never trade it for an NV4500. They are easy to rebuild (after you get 'em out of the truck, they're really heavy) and are an all around good transmission if you use good synthetic oil in them ( I use Amsoil 5w-30w) and overfill them.
More info here:
If you are going to do some heavy towing this cooler will keep trans temp down and increases fluid capacity by one quart. Also has plug for temp sensor install.
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....er=TRANSCOOL_1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...0-t157961.html
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Also that is wrong that just adding oil to a leaking, anything, is OK. After time the oil in that tranny will break down, new oil you add will have less than a 1/4 of it's usefullness due to being added to broke down oil. You still must change the fluid, even on leakers, you are causing harm by not changing it.
It might be leaking so much because you overfill, the overfill. Just a thought. I have 5 quarts in mine and never leaks a drop.
Also that is wrong that just adding oil to a leaking, anything, is OK. After time the oil in that tranny will break down, new oil you add will have less than a 1/4 of it's usefullness due to being added to broke down oil. You still must change the fluid, even on leakers, you are causing harm by not changing it.
Also that is wrong that just adding oil to a leaking, anything, is OK. After time the oil in that tranny will break down, new oil you add will have less than a 1/4 of it's usefullness due to being added to broke down oil. You still must change the fluid, even on leakers, you are causing harm by not changing it.
Also I have a elbow fitting on the side of the tranny connected to a clear hose 5/8" ID and I can see if there is oil above the level of the fill plug or not and some times there is not so the tranny is not overfilled beyond capacity, I hoped that was it but I see it only leaks through the top right corner and I will have to keep filling it until I pull it and see what is going on with it.
Btw I only use 5-30w, that is what I heard here and from the guys at Zbag.
Thank You for Your concern.
heythanksguysfor the info, i havechanged itmany times but for somereasoni couldnot remember. i donthavemuchtime for the computer, and i wish i did cause itsnice to getonthis site and. andget alot of info and ideas...thanks again...
I was actually thinking of drilling the shifter top and threading in a hole (that I could cap later) and using that as a fill hole.
How do you get your oil into the trans from the top?
just doing it out of the truck, I cant imagine how many beers it would take to put back together
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