1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

dually wheels

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2014 | 11:43 PM
  #1  
NE frmhnd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 2
From: McCook, Nebraska
dually wheels

If I read it right in the sticky, there's no real way to do anything about keeping the wheels centered without changing the wheels, too. Which would mean going to a Ford wheel or having Chevy wheels machined and using the proper Ford or GM hardware. Which could also mean changing the wheel studs for the proper diameter and thread pitch. Am I right?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2014 | 06:33 AM
  #2  
Roy3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Patrick County, VA.
I have extra centering rings I machined when I made some for my truck. They are for the front of a 4x4 dually. Without them, you must center the wheel by using conical style lug nuts first, then install the factory nuts after everything is tight. If interested, PM me. I can ship you a pair.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2014 | 07:39 AM
  #3  
j_martin's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 211
From: Isanti, MN
This works.

TSB 22-02-92
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2014 | 10:38 PM
  #4  
NE frmhnd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 2
From: McCook, Nebraska
I read the thread in the sticky. The boss' boy got himself an 89 and asked if there was anything we could do when I told him how tight the lug nuts are supposed to be.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 05:48 AM
  #5  
comotionman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 192
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by NE frmhnd
I read the thread in the sticky. The boss' boy got himself an 89 and asked if there was anything we could do when I told him how tight the lug nuts are supposed to be.
Swivel washer lugs only require 140ft-lbs torque.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 01:08 PM
  #6  
j_martin's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 211
From: Isanti, MN
Originally Posted by comotionman
Swivel washer lugs only require 140ft-lbs torque.
Unless they're being asked to hold 1 ton wheels centered with clamping force, then it's 300-350 ft.-lbs.

Read the TSB
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 01:47 PM
  #7  
comotionman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 192
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by j_martin
Unless they're being asked to hold 1 ton wheels centered with clamping force, then it's 300-350 ft.-lbs.

Read the TSB
The tsb is refering to the torque of the stock fixed flange lug nuts. The only reason for the 300-350ft-lb value is to overcome the friction of the fixed flange nut. The actual clamp load seen at the stud is not reflective of the 300+ft-lb input. If it were the studs would be breaking as that's way over sae torque of even grade 10 5/8-18. When you get tired of torqueing to 300+ step into a set of swivel washer lugs. Makes life much easier, only requires 140ft-lbs--its stamped right on the lug. Have had mine for a couple years. No wheels have fallen off. Its what should have come oe. Its whats on 2ndgens, although they are 9/16.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 04:07 PM
  #8  
j_martin's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 211
From: Isanti, MN
Originally Posted by comotionman
The tsb is refering to the torque of the stock fixed flange lug nuts. The only reason for the 300-350ft-lb value is to overcome the friction of the fixed flange nut. The actual clamp load seen at the stud is not reflective of the 300+ft-lb input. If it were the studs would be breaking as that's way over sae torque of even grade 10 5/8-18. When you get tired of torqueing to 300+ step into a set of swivel washer lugs. Makes life much easier, only requires 140ft-lbs--its stamped right on the lug. Have had mine for a couple years. No wheels have fallen off. Its what should have come oe. Its whats on 2ndgens, although they are 9/16.
My bad. Thanks for the information. I just looked in the SM and original torque is specified at 325 ft.-lbs. I thought the TSB significantly raised the torque, but I was wrong.

Where'd you get them?
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 02:02 AM
  #9  
comotionman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 192
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by j_martin
My bad. Thanks for the information. I just looked in the SM and original torque is specified at 325 ft.-lbs. I thought the TSB significantly raised the torque, but I was wrong.

Where'd you get them?
No problem. I think I have a couple sets left. I can sell you one. Pm me if interested.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2014 | 12:05 AM
  #10  
NE frmhnd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 2
From: McCook, Nebraska
I found 5/8-18 washered lug nuts on trailer parts supplies dot com for 3 and a quarter a piece, chrome.
Also found on fayette trailer sales dot com for $4.50, black oxide finish.

Sounds like a set of rings and swivel washer lug nuts are the way to go.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wannadiesel
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
81
Sep 15, 2018 01:40 PM
gmctd
2nd Gen. Dodge Ram - No Drivetrain
4
Jan 10, 2008 07:43 PM
Jordan5687
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
3
Jul 5, 2007 06:24 PM
CTD NUT
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
5
Sep 12, 2005 04:40 PM
RobG
24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
1
Sep 5, 2003 09:13 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:52 AM.