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Old 06-24-2011, 05:00 PM
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Dexron III/Mercon for ATS Stage IV?

I've always changed my own trans fluid. I've got 10 years (168,000 miles) on my ATS Stage IV rebuild in my '95, 2500, and I've been using ATF +4. However I can't find enough of it to do a full change and I was wondering if anyone with an ATS trans here has used Dexron III Mercon fluid?
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Robert, as I recall, Clint told me to stick with the ATF-4 but I hear what you are saying on it being hard to get. It is pretty expensive now too. Let me know what you find out.

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I did call ATS and talked to a tech guy. He said I could use the Dexron III Mercon with no problem. And I called Bellflower Trans--they are an ATS shop in Bellflower, Cal., and they said the same thing. So I guess I'll give it a try.

The problem was I couldn't find the ATF +4 in gallons. Buying it by the quart, when I need 14 quarts or so just makes it more expensive than it should be.
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Add a bottle of Red Lube Guard to that Dextron III.
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Thanks Fox. I'll get some and add it.
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Originally Posted by Robert Rausch
I did call ATS and talked to a tech guy. He said I could use the Dexron III Mercon with no problem. And I called Bellflower Trans--they are an ATS shop in Bellflower, Cal., and they said the same thing. So I guess I'll give it a try.

The problem was I couldn't find the ATF +4 in gallons. Buying it by the quart, when I need 14 quarts or so just makes it more expensive than it should be.
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John, do you remember how much the ATS takes? I always drain the TC, and with the MagHytec pan, I remember it takes a lot, but I just guessed about it holding 14 quarts.
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Originally Posted by Robert Rausch
John, do you remember how much the ATS takes? I always drain the TC, and with the MagHytec pan, I remember it takes a lot, but I just guessed about it holding 14 quarts.
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Mine holds right at 20 quarts Robert with the TC and all drained.
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Do you have the double deep pan or the regular Mag Hytec pan?
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Robert, I have the double deep pan on both of my trucks.
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How much red LubeGuard should I add? I couldn't find it locally and ended up ordering a quart of it.
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Originally Posted by Robert Rausch
How much red LubeGuard should I add? I couldn't find it locally and ended up ordering a quart of it.
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Robert, when I used LubeGuard I always added the whole bottle and then adjusted the ATF accordingly.
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Dave Goerend recommended Dextron mercon 3 with a napa additive. No problems this far.
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Start out with no LubeGard.
If the shifts are too jerky (I call it crisp) for you add about 6 oz of LubeGard at a time till the shifts are mushy enough for you.
I've always used the LubeGard Black.
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Thanks Bill. I have straight Dexron III/Mercon in it right now. But I'm going to add a bit of the LubeGuard-I'll do 6 oz and see what happens.
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