Is there really any benefit to the Turbo-Master as compared the the standard wastegate actuator?

I am in need of a wastegate actuator and bracket for a turbo I recently acquired and I am trying to decide if I want to mess around with a Turbo-Master or stick with what I am familiar with.

Thanks for the input.

 

Here is a little reading to help answer that question.
This was an article done by DTR and Lary Ellis.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...rbomaster.html
And the FAQ at Turbo Master.
http://www.turbo-master.com/?action=faq
I have not installed mine yet. I just got the EZ and I'm getting use to the boost elbow. Once I get a feel for it I will install the Turbo Master to get a comparison.
Hope this helps

 

Thanks for the links.

From reading that info it seems the TM is touting that it is a "field" adjustable wastegate. Since IMO a wastegate for the most part is a set it and forget it mod, with maybe a test run to fine tune it, the ease of adjustment is kind of a moot point for me.

I think the TM would be a little more difficult to set up because at least with a regulated air supply I can adjust to standard wastegate to be very close to what I want it to be.

The other claim is that is increases you boost pressure over stock. As mentioned a boost elbow will do this easily or the stock wastegate can be adjusted without a ton of work.

The only thing that I read in the positive in the differences between the two is the TM may be a little faster responding wastegate. I'm not certain how benefical this would be for performance ?

 

I'm no turbo expert so all I can offer is my opinion based on what I’ve read on this site and other sites. If you have a stock truck and don’t drive it hard (race or tow heavy) it might not be for you. If you push the envelope then it would help. I have the boost elbow with the Edge EZ and it does seem to lag a little. The boost elbow is nothing more than a brass elbow with a small hole in it to bleed off air. If you have bigger injectors and are running close to the edge of your turbos efficiency then reaction time could be an issue. I would guess that the hole in the elbow would be efficient in a narrow band. The TM is adjustable, so if you add a different fuel box or bigger injectors it would be no big deal to fine tune the set up. These turbos can not keep adding boost there is a limit before you are in trouble and need a different setup. With the TM you can set that. I guess you could drill the elbow a little larger, but what happens if the hole is too big? With the TM all you do is tighten or loosen the adjusting nut. I’m sure my explanation is on the simple side. Give Bill Heath a call and he can go into much more detail. He is a great guy to deal with. 1-877-894-6266.
Hope this helps.

 

i recently installed the turbo master on my truck. i'm happy with it so far and have seen a drop of 300 degrees in exhaust temp, but i also installed an afe mega cannon at about the same time. now that drop is when towing my tt. i only saw a drop of about 100 w/out my trailer. the only thing i had problems with on the turbo master isnt really a problem at all. i adjusted it to the specs they pointed out in the directions that it came with. i set it up to be about 19-20 psi at first. they give you a measurement which i cant recall off hand. nevertheless, i had to back it way off as it pegged my boost gauge past 30 (0-30 ispro gauge). once i backed it off though it works great.

 

Or you can be really cheap about it -like me- and put a turn buckle on it. It cost $2.43 from Lowe's. Not real adjustable, but it makes the truck just a bit snappier. Scott

 

Put a Turbo-master on my father 96 3500 auto, he loves it. Abunch of other mods helped too.

 

Does anyone know what the size of the orifice in the EZ boost elbow is? I'm thinking about doing the spent .22 shell casing method on my '01 w/ the hardlined HY35w. I thought I'd try drilling a small hole in the end of the shell casing to mimick the boost elbow idea. Anyone know (or have suggestions) what size hole to drill?

 

I believe it is a #62, which is 0.038 inches. You can call Edge and they might verify that.
I didn’t see a box in your Signature. Do you have a way to fool the ECM on what the boost is? If not it will set codes and start to de-fuel around 20psi.

 

Not yet, but I sent off a money order to guy for a used Edge EZ... just trying to think ahead in case what I get is not totally "complete" or comes with the boost elbow for HX35. It should be here by the end of the week.

 

I just went out and tried it with a #74 in my elbow and it was snug. It’s raining here so I didn’t try to find which one it was. I would start with a #74 and work my way up to the #60s (bigger the number smaller the hole). If you don’t have a supplier of these drills here is where I get them. http://www.drillbitcity.com/catalogue/25_piece.asp
Hope this helps.

 

Yes, that does help. I have a tool store about 2 miles from me that has everything under sun. I haven't been able to stump them yet on a tool (unless it's an SST for just one vehicle or something). They don't have the little drills on the shelves with the "normal" size bits, but if you ask them, they will fetch for you out of the back room. I'll start with the #74 and go from there (once the EZ shows up, that is).

Thanks again.....

 

Mechanos, I read your post and others on different sites. What I learned from them is that the boost elbow bleeds pressure off to keep the wastegate from opening earlier than normal because the pressure being bleed off has to be over come by the volume being feed and the .22 shell keeps it from opening at all by stopping the preesure feed to it.So if I understand correctly what would happen with a hole in the shell pressure to activate the waste gate would be slowed down by the orifice taking longer for it open but the actual boost pressure would not go up.Only my opinion no offense intended. Has anyone tried to driil a hole in the stock elbow?If so did it work? What size?

 

Thanks for the replies.

I have decided to keep running the stock WG actuator. I haven't found any evidence that has swayed my decision of the TM . I don't feel that it is all that special of a product over a properly adjusted OEM actuator.

If however I need a replacement I might consider the TM.

Thanks again.