This is Roy's dad. In a previous thread my son said that he was to come up to Northern Cal to pick up my 1990 Dodge. He left this morning for Corona, CA and has broken down in Kettleman City, CA just south of Fresno.

This pickup has had a failed fuil shut off solenoid for the past six or seven years. It failed in the open position so I installed a kill cable through the dash. Just gave that info as a background.

He had a front tire tread separate that shook the truck half to death. After changing the tire, the engine will turn over fine but well not fire.

Could this miserable solenoid be the problem or could all that shaking have caused some other problem.

Any good injector shops in that area.

Tim Avery

PS Forgive me of using my sons name an password.

Roy is a Savy mechanic but flew north commercial and atempted to drive home with no tools.

If any body is in the area, his cell number is xxx xxx xxxx.

Thanks much, Tim


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It sounds like the wire may have come off of the solenoid. I am sure he has checked that. Give him time he will find it, it may be simple.

 

If it comes to it avoid Haddad Dodge in Bakersfield like the plague.
Dealer in Turlock is much better

 

Roy pulled the plunger out and it still will not start. The fuil guage registers 1/2 full. Is there a floating suction in the fuil tank that could be messed up.

Tim

 

Lets try the obvious. Drag it over and fill tank, while you are at it change fuel filter ( fill with clead fuel whilst filling tank). You may have shaken debrie loose in tank and/or filter with seperated tire.
Clark

 

royta: did he get it going. It's 105 in Redding, 90 here in mountains, must be 110 at kc
Clark

 

Easy way to check for fuel is too loosen afuel line after the lift pump and crank it.

 

Changed the filter, removed the plunger on fuel solenoid, manually stroked the transfer pump on side of engine and got fuel out of hole that solenoid goes into.

He even pulled the fuel line that comes out of the fuel tank and stuck it into a bucket of fuel. Manually stroked transfer pump, primed injector pump, bled injector lines and it still did not start. That should eliminate air comming in from the fuel tank.

Turned it over with a few of injector lines loose and got quite a bit of fuil from them but maybe not enough preasure.

Jeff Marioti of I think Lompoc or Goleta just north of Sant Barbara, CA saw this thread and called Roy on his cell phone to see if he could help and showed up with a Dodge and a car trailer and they just dropped Roy's truck at an injector shop in Santa Maria, CA. These guys did some work on Jeff's truck and he thought they were great.

The truck was lacking power and I think that was due to a week injector pump. Maybe it finally went with 185 K miles.

This will be my last post on behalf of my son Roy. Thanks everbody, it is frustratiing when your kid is broken down 450 mile south of you. I started down with a car trailer and got as far a Redding CA when Roy let me know that Jeff showed up.

These forums are great. I am working on a 32 Ford Roadster with a 48 Mec flathead in it and belong to a Flathead Forum. It is full of good stuff.

Roy will I am sure let you know what the outcome is and again I thank you guys a whole bunch. If any of you guys get in a pickel in Siskiyou County Cal., get ahold of Roy and he will steer you to me.

Tim Avery-for Roy

 

Well, I'm home and back at work. Spunbearing drove around 300 miles, according to Mapquest, to bail me out. Add at least another 100 miles for running me around and dropping off the trailer. He picked up the trailer, chains, binders, come along, etc. in Arroyo Grande. The trailer was borderline big enough, with the hooks about two inches to the front and rear of the front and rear tires respectively. The rental yard told Jeff that it was only a 6000 GVRW trailer, but it was a tandem axle and had a 2 5/16" ball, so we went for it. I showed Jeff how **** rententive I am by how long it took me to anchor my truck to the trailer, but it paid off, as the chains stayed extremely tight.

His '93 D250, Getrag 360, 3.54's pulled rather well. According to the registration papers, my truck weighs in at 5500 lbs., though it is probably heavier. DMV registration papers rarely say what the truck actually weighs, in order to save on weight fees.

While waiting for Jeff, I bought a plastic fuel can, 3/8" fuel line, a few wrenches, a screwdriver, and a new fuel filter. I changed the filter, set the fuel can on the battery, and ran fuel line directly to the lift pump. I cracked the high pressure lines at the injectors and bled everything. There wasn't a whole lot of fuel squirting out between the lines and the nut. After tightening down the lines, the truck still would not start. I could barely smell diesel burning, but I wasn't even getting any smoke from the exhaust. My intake was free and clear, because I checked that all out too. Oh, I also removed the plunger and spring from the fuel shut-off solenoid. Sounded like an injector pump to me. Rather strange that it finally took a dump when I threw the tread off my right front tire. I had low power the entire trip, so I knew there was something wrong with it.

Anyway, my truck is now at Diesel Injection Systems in Santa Maria, CA. Larry told me yesterday that it was the pump, and that it would probably be ready for me to make the 240 mile trip to pick it up on Friday. Before leaving Santa Maria, I'll put on four new tires. Wow, what an expensive first week of owning/borrowing the truck.

I'll let everybody know how it's running after the weekend. I'm real excited to drive it with Larry's magic touches done to the pump.

Thanks to all that helped out, and especially to spunbearing.

 

Thanks for the update, I was worried about you. Spunbearing deserves a group "Attaboy!" for bailing out a fellow DTR member.

 

Spunbearing is one heck-of-a-guy. We could all use friends like him!

If he ever comes through Dallas, dinner is on me!

CR

 

nothing like a story with a happy ending. Glad everything worked out. Kudos to Spunbearing.

 

Get us some pictures when you can! Glad you had excellent help, and sorry to hear about your expenses. Give us a buzz if you head through Iowa!

Ditto on the dinner to Spunbearing when he rolls through I-80 sometime!!!

 

Oh dear. I just got word that exhaust push rods 4, 5, & 6 are severely bent, and push rods 1, 2, & 3 are slightly bent. I didn't overspeed the engine, so I don't know how it could have happened. Larry said he hasn't seen an indication of the cam timing being off. Wow, this is really starting to add up. I kind of wish I would have picked up a truck with less miles and tighter fitting doors, and just put a utility body on it.