tank dipped today
10-19-2004, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by bdramsey
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if we want deisel/gas prices to come down, we need more refining capacity in NA. we're at 95% right now (which pretty much means 100% since every unit in every refinery cannot be operational all the time). without new refining capacity we won't feel much diffrerence at the pump when crude prices drop (and they will drop).
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10-19-2004, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Rob_OBX
I got dipped a few months ago, and had about 3/4 tank of bio from the station in Durham. I was out in the middle of nowhere,VA. they had a road block set up and directed every diesel into a parking lot. The guy stuck the straw in my tank and really looked at it, then stared at it... he came up to the lady that was asking me the questions, and said "look at this, what do you think?" she said " well it's not red" Then she asked me what it was. I said biodiesel. she paused for a moment and asked where I bought it. I'm guessing she wanted to make sure it was purchased, not home made, to be sure taxes were paid on it.
I'm not worried even if they said it was red, I have every fuel reciept for the last 60,000 miles at least, and a fuel log book logging every fuel stop from the last 30,000+ miles.
by the way with the EZ on 4, 315s and doing a decent amount of towing and ALOT of city driving, I'm averaging 19 mpg
over the last 30,000 miles. not bad at all for a 4x4 QC,LB
I got dipped a few months ago, and had about 3/4 tank of bio from the station in Durham. I was out in the middle of nowhere,VA. they had a road block set up and directed every diesel into a parking lot. The guy stuck the straw in my tank and really looked at it, then stared at it... he came up to the lady that was asking me the questions, and said "look at this, what do you think?" she said " well it's not red" Then she asked me what it was. I said biodiesel. she paused for a moment and asked where I bought it. I'm guessing she wanted to make sure it was purchased, not home made, to be sure taxes were paid on it.
I'm not worried even if they said it was red, I have every fuel reciept for the last 60,000 miles at least, and a fuel log book logging every fuel stop from the last 30,000+ miles.
by the way with the EZ on 4, 315s and doing a decent amount of towing and ALOT of city driving, I'm averaging 19 mpg
over the last 30,000 miles. not bad at all for a 4x4 QC,LB
And what would they have done if it was homemade? As far as I know, it's not illegal. Although that'll probably change shortly.
10-19-2004, 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by large_marge
the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
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the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
jeremiah
They never asked permission, or said anything about consent. Just handed me a pamphlet and opened her up...
10-19-2004, 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by large_marge
the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
jeremiah
the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
jeremiah
I came up with a pretty good idea for anyone that wants to stretch the law and burn red fuel. Install an inbed tank and gravity feed it to the LP pump and eliminate the stock tank. plug the feed and return lines to the stock tank and fill it with a few gals of fuel. install a fuel guage to the inbed tank (if needed) and use that tank for the main tank. If you are pulled over, they will only dip the stock tank since it is legal to carry red in an inbed tank. The only way you could tell is if the fuel supply/return lines were visable or they opened the fuel filter.
Or you could cut the supply/return lines and install a fuel selector valve and still use both tanks without contaminating the stock tank with red (might still get a little red after selecting due to red fuel still in the return line)
10-19-2004, 05:34 PM
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If you use homemade fuel on the road, you must pay the taxes on it to be legal. If diesel is taxed at $0.50 per gallon (pretty common once you consider federal, state and local taxes) you must pay $0.50 per gallon in tax to the appropriate authorities. It's up to you to figure out to who and how much you should pay, if you get it wrong it's your fault, you get in trouble if you get caught. There hasn't been much enforcement on this yet, but as homemade fuels become more popular some people are going to find out that homemade fuel isn't free.
10-19-2004, 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by large_marge
the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
jeremiah
the moral of the story is never consent to a search. if they're gunna do it anyway, make em get a warrant
jeremiah
Additionally, section 6715 defines the penalty for knowingly use of, or sale of, dyed diesel,for highway travel.
IRS law also states that refusal to comply with "dipping" also carries a fine(I believe its $1,000, and they dip anyway).
Does the IRS need a warrant to audit your taxes?
I'm no fan of the IRS. And having worked in municipal government for 21 years, I have seen our tax money misappropriated every fiscal year. Its unfair, but this is a tax matter and taxes are rairly fair.
Like the old addage says......death and taxes
10-19-2004, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by chaikwa
I'm surprised no one has come up with a dye to add to the red diesel that'll change it to green or yellow!
chaikwa.
I'm surprised no one has come up with a dye to add to the red diesel that'll change it to green or yellow!
chaikwa.
10-19-2004, 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by chaikwa
I'm surprised no one has come up with a dye to add to the red diesel that'll change it to green or yellow!
chaikwa.
I'm surprised no one has come up with a dye to add to the red diesel that'll change it to green or yellow!
chaikwa.
Changing back to green or yellow won't remove the chemical tracer.
They can't fine you for having red in your tank, they have to send it off for testing,
then if they find the chemical, you get fined.
They're also coming up with a way to "sniff" the exhaust, no dipping necessary.
phox
