Floorman

i was going down to my mothers house on rt 87 and was pulled over by NC s finest had a irs agent with him. pretty blonde said they would like to dip my tank i said dip away . then she says uht oh red! i said no way she said i will take a different test in the car. came back and said RED i will have to write you up.

she did and told me my rights didnt fine me .said it was going to the lab in raleigh and they would let me know in 2 weeks if it was and send me a $ 1000.00 dollar fine. i told her i had been running bio diesel and she said it was just thicker no color difference. i could apeal and they would dip the station and if it was not them then it would fall back on me . she told me it takes quite a while for the red to get out of the system. but when i told her i had been up and down the coast all this past year she said oh no that if i was in this area for a little while that i would be fine?

conterdicting dont we think? i told her a friend of mine was just in florida and that they were selling red due to the hurricane and she said he better flush his tanks and lines change filter as well. then i asked her why they were doing this and she said the rise in fuel prices has prompted them to check people.

i said oh are you catching people? and she said lots with a smile.

when are we as a country going to put our foot down with this government? this is such bull there is no red in my truck and i will fight this all the way. hard enough to survive without this crap. besides if they can sell it to farmers at that price why not us ? what about florida how fair is that. maybe we all need a hurricane

ok im done ****** but done

Scotty

They were dipping on the east side of town here at a Husky truck stop. Several uniformed folks writing fines to several big rigs.



they get hit with high fuel costs and then this. I am opposed to all this high oil crap too.

kingofdodge7131

And i was about ready to be retarded and fill up on the farm. Good thing i didnt. But ive checked into it, In iowa the first time is only 200 bucks
But the dyed fuel is 1.69 as of last mondya. SO it would take 8500 miles of it to make up the savings if i got caught once

DPG

In theory, it's a "if you use it, you help pay for it" system. The "on road" fuel costs more because it is taxed to keep the roads in repair. If you don't use your diesel-engined vehicle on the road, you don't have to pay the road taxes. I'm not trying to justify the system, just explain the theory behind it. I'm currently paying $2.12 per gallon, and hating it.

DeWain

bdramsey

Socialisim...................

RustyJC

No, user fees. Personally, I think it's a fair way to pay for highway construction and maintenance - the more one uses them (i.e., burns more fuel), the more they pay.

If you don't like the fuel tax system, how would you propose funding highway construction and maintenance?

Rusty

Scotty

I don't think the issue is about the road taxes as much as its about the high price of fuel in general.
In Canada there is always this apparent passive attitude towards stuff like rising fuel prices, rising taxes, rising debt, rising costs of living in general and very little pressure on the gov or politicians to change their attitude that the taxpayer is the host and they are the prey.

"How we gonna pay for this multi million dollar mistake again?"

"Lets sweep it under the carpet and not be accountable and raise taxes."

If you speak up, you get heavily scrutinized so most stay silent and take it in the shorts.

So why are we paying such a high cost for fuel and why is the barrel of oil so costly now?

If it truly is because of road tax, at least up here they forgot to maintain the roads in exchange for the taxes.
We have some NASTY roads here.

Shovelhead

This is in the US.

Info taken from here
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

kingofdodge7131

Well, This is true, It is a good system if they would keep all the roads up. I pay this road tax and my home road is so crappy. you almost need a truck. My brothers lil Hyundi tiburon almost wont make it sometime. Part due to him for lowering the thing but still. Now i come from the country. Im sure city is the same way. I pay property tax to the center of the road but yet i cant use it. Those should be more than enough to pay to fix a pot whole or redo the road every 20 years

Eskimo

YIKES!

That's REAL close to home.. seals the deal for me not to run it... The B20 I've been running from Durham & Cary is always a Yellowish tinge...

Coming to the meet & eat on the 30th?

chaikwa

So if the tax on fuel funds road maintenance and reconstruction, what are the tolls from toll-road money going towards? If it funds the same purposes, isn't that double taxation? If the toll roads use no fuel tax monies, then shouldn't people be allowed to use dyed diesel on the toll roads, just like a farm vehicle uses it on the farm?

It could get quite interesting if it the issue was pushed far enough I think!

chaikwa.

Mechanos

Fuel tax goes toward road maintenance. Tolls go towards the initial construction costs of building the roadway/bridge.

About 8-10 years ago, a local bridge here in town finally collected enough through tolls over about 25 years or so to pay off it's initial construction cost. At that time the toll booths were dismantled and remove. The bridge has been a "free" bridge ever since.

induchman

Yeah, welcome to the club. Everytime I've run down to sunny FLA on account of hurricane relief, I've encountered red-dye diesel at various stations. The IRS put a moratorium on fines only during the month of September for Floridians using red-dye, because the lack of fuel on account of the storms. That has to be a first!

The one grand fine is only the tip of the iceberg. Since the IRS has read you your rights and written you up, expect a large fine later on. That's after they review all your returns and check all your receipts. The fine expands when they determine how much of that tank has dye in it. It takes seven (7) tank fulls of clear or yellow-green to cleanse the red from the system. Then two filter changes.

gsdog1

I suppose I could stand the taxes etc. etc. etc. But the scenario that Scotty has posted above pans out extremely well here......

My shrink now has me counting to 10, cause stopping at 3 just wasn't cutting it anymore. Then there are the deep breathing exercises. Then there's the prescription meds.....oh and I opened that can of worms.....

gsdog1 goes back to his corner and starts his counting and breathing exercises now....

Matt

Pavement_hater

You mean that somewhere this really happens? Sure doesnt happen in Maryland. Heard the same story about the tolls on I95. The roads and bridges have long been paid for. They even doubled the tolls last year.