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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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I leave it runnin' just to see how many people look to see whats makin all the noise
That doesn't strike you as annoying?

I don't really see much of a line between that and the 10,000 watt subwoofers and 7 inch bee-hive mufflers...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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The difference is as follows:

Not everybody likes to hear your music or your Honda, but everybody MUST want to hear a nice CTD.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JyRO
I too do not beleive it takes a mother-load of fuel to start a vehicle. Let me re-phrase that. Most vehicles. The starter turns it over, you need somewhere near idle fuel or a skosh more, but that's it. If anything, its just extra wear on the starter.

The exception to this is the 6.0h no. I likely requires lots of fuel, starter wear and battery wear to actually bring one of those things to life.
IIRC from my fuel pump days in tech school, mechanical pumps "Start" in the full fuel position and then defuel when they governer weights start moving.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ofcmarc
IIRC from my fuel pump days in tech school, mechanical pumps "Start" in the full fuel position and then defuel when they governer weights start moving.
Ok, so how long should you idle before you start using more fuel than if you just shut it off? Sounds like a good idea for Mythbusters.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Yeah, but they would use something with a gas engine that's so old it never was made to pass smog tests (and probably wouldn't start so good anyway) or if they specifically did it for Diesel pickups they would probably use a GM 6.2 or Ford 6.9
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Duallydog
Yeah, but they would use something with a gas engine that's so old it never was made to pass smog tests (and probably wouldn't start so good anyway) or if they specifically did it for Diesel pickups they would probably use a GM 6.2 or Ford 6.9
I actually just submitted that idea to the mythbusters website. And I specifically said: "such as in a Dodge Ram Cummins diesel." It sure would be cool if one day a Dodge Ram CTD made it to the show.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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I leave mine running but can the gas fumes be harmful when sucked in?
Absolutely... It is shown to cause cancer in lab animals due to prolonged exposure!

Couldn't help it...

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Does that apply at the truck side of a truck stop?
74Dart,

It applies to anything that has an internal combustion engine in it. So yes, technically it doesn't matter where you are, it will apply. The law has been on the books since 1949 and has been amended too.

Heres a direct link to CT's Law: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap2...%2014-260m.htm

Mike
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ofcmarc
IIRC from my fuel pump days in tech school, mechanical pumps "Start" in the full fuel position and then defuel when they governer weights start moving.

ofcmarc - I believe you there. But with our injector pumps, which are controlled by the ECU, I would think the situation would be much different. I'm think the programming would give it a "rich" mixture for a couple injection events, then go to idle speed. But I'm just guessing.

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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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I had a lady call the sheriff on me for fueling while the truck was running. I laughed when he showed up, he agreed that diesel didnt have to. Since then the GAS CITY pumps here in SV AZ have removed the Shut off motor stickers on DSL pumps.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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I dont, they say most engine wear is caused at start up? plus it drives my wife crazy! I was filling up the other day and the guy next to me in his gasser left it running and was smoking!! not sure thats a good idea,but i see alot of guys doing it.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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I dont, they say most engine wear is caused at start up? plus it drives my wife crazy! I was filling up the other day and the guy next to me in his gasser left it running and was smoking!! not sure thats a good idea,but i see alot of guys doing it.
That guy is crazy! I would've said something. Engine wear is mostly at start up but only for cold starts really. When it takes a few seconds for oil pressure to build. Restarting the engine after having it off for the duration of the pump builds oil pressure almost instantly. Idling for too long can be more damaging to the engine in a diesel, if cylinder temps. drop too low, you'll end up washing the oil off the cylinders.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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I got one for you so while filling up the other day it clicked off prematurely so I jumped out while the pump monkey was sitting in his hut well he went off on me stating in Oregon you cant pump your fuel and jerked the nozzle from my hand. I proceeded to tell him he is a idiot because yes in Oregon you not allowed to pump class 1 flammable liquids but if you knew your job you would know that diesel is a class 3 flammable so that means YES I can pump my own diesel . So after that I was like what ever dude and I got back in my truck then I watched him in my mirror jacked the you know what out of my fuel cap and proceeded to slam my fuel door. As I was leaving I thought I seen him taking down my plate number which he did not need because I just gave him a check with every thing on it all ready. Jeff if you read this please tell me I was on the right foot or did i just stick my foot clear in my mouth
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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I have a spare key which I use in the ignition. I pull up to the pump, leave her running (which cools the turbo down per my EGT gauge), fuel up. Then if I am going to park, I am "cool" and I shut down. If not, I am back on the road. I can step away from the truck and lock the doors, while it is running, with my other key.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Depends on hard it's been working, if no load in slow traffic, I'll shut it down, if I pull in while towing, or just coming off the highway, I'll leave it running, don't have time to cool the turbo down.
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