I am a Certified Energy Specialist with Cenex and was hoping to get some feedback straight from the horses mouth. I wasn't going to say that I work for Cenex but I want to be honest with you and hope that in return you will be honest with me. I mostly work in the agricultural sector but who better to put Roadmaster/Fieldmaster to the test than you guys. What do you think of Cenex Roadmaster compared to other diesel fuels? Thanks for your input. Also, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

 

Roadmaster and Ruby on the farm is all I burn.
When I'm on the road and there's no Cenex around I lose about 2 mpgs.
Lose 4 mpgs with Town Pump Exxon fuel, don't go there anymore.

 

Whats the difference from reg. old #2?
Never heard of it, is it sold nationwide? 2 Mpg's sounds good............

 

Cenex - I am not particularly impressed with an additized #2 product, and your distirbution network is limited enough that I haven't ever been able to try your fuels. I do hear that people like them, but anything over standard #2 is a plus. I would really only be impressed with a more refined, true premium diesel, like BP diesel supreme or Amoco premier, which are not additized #2, 50 cetane minimum, low aromatic, high btu, as I'm sure you know.

I do think that the fieldmaster blends are what you should be pushing and spreading. Increase the biodiesel percentage and market the clean air/domestic economy/lubricity benefits. The more bio we burn the better, and I think it's great to see manufacturers like Cenex offering biodiesel blends!

 

I agree with the better distribution of bio. Here we have a big Cenex truck stop and a farm store in town. Niether have bio.

However, 3 hrs away at my cousins in ND, all they have is bio for diesel and are strongly pushing the E-85 (?) for non-diesel. The E-85 is 1.79 also. The bio was same price as straight 2.

The bio was only b-5 tho. I can't find any higher out in my neck of the woods. Which to me is a real bummer.

 

A number of stations here in the Twin Cities metro area of Minnesota have E-85. The problem is finding a vehicle that can run E-85. For long trips, I need a larger SUV or truck. Those still burn just gasoline. Plus, you can't find E-85 out west at all so I would end up burning gasoline as often as E-85.

Brian Elfert

 

Never heard of it.

 

It would be nice IF I COULD EVEN *BUY* CENEX DIESEL IN CHEYENNE.

I'd love to run bio, but I don't feel like buying it 10,000 gallons at a time. (Blue sun isn't that far away).

I'd kill to try some Ruby, but WTH can I get it?? I'm not gonna drive 200 miles to fill up!

 

E = ethanol
E-85 = 85% ethanol

 

So is the "Road Master" different than the regular #2 they sell at my local Cenex Co-Op?? If that is what they are selling I didnt know it. I usually fill up at a Exxon on the Indian Rez due to the fact that it is about 20 cents a gallon cheaper than the city. I have always been told that diesel was diesel no matter what station you got it from. (of course that doesnt take into consideration volume sold or the polotics surrounding country of origin) I would be willing to try other brands inspite of the cost difference if there was a higher grade fuel available that would produce better results. If I were to call the Local Cenex Co-Op to enquire as to what kind of fuels were avaiable outside of regualr #1 and #2 what would I ask for? "Road Master" spacefically or is there a number designation? What is the difference between the "Road Master" and regular ol' #2?? More than willing to give it a wulr and post my opinion if it can be had, but to my knowledge of the 50 or so stations in this county that sell diesel it only comes in off road and on road.

 

Send me a couple hundred gallons for a test and I'll let ya know.
You know an experiment-type thing....yeah,... that's it,...... an experiment.........

 

CSAGrey1 - what you've heard for the MOST part is true. Most diesel at your local stations is what they call standard #2 fungible product, which travels from regional refineries through pipelines to terminals, at which point it's branded and potentially additized and put into separate trucks. So for the most part, what you are getting at shell is typically identical to the stuff you're getting at the speedway across the street from it.

With that said, many companies market a 'premium' diesel, that is really just #2 with various additives. This basically is a marketing scheme - and the added price probably doesn't get you as much benefit as just getting regular #2 cheaper and adding powerservice or your favorite additive..

I don't know exactly what roadmaster is, but I believe it to be additized #2. If Cenex would reply, that would be nice...lol. I love when people post a thread and never revisit. Ever see those threads on here with 3 pages of replies and the original poster never answers? So which one is it Cenex - additized #2, or is it further refined than #2 and kept separate?

True premium diesel does exist, however most of you do not have access to it. BP Diesel Supreme and Amoco premier are examples. These are low aromatic, 50 cetane minimum, have a beefy additive package, higher btu (mpg/power) than #2, and are kept separate (no common pipelines) from #2 every step, from refinery to pump. Supreme is only distributed in very limited areas of 2 states, and premier just a handful more. I think the distribution costs become too much when you get too far away from the special refineries that make these premium fuels. In any case, I am lucky enough to fill exclusively with bp supreme - and both of my vehicles really respond well to it, in the form of smoother/quieter idle, better performance, better mpg, and less smell/smoke.

 

THen I am guessing in good Ol' Yakima Washington all we are getting is plain #2. I guess if I want to pay less I am just going to have to take my chances with tax evasion (still not real keen on that one) or start home brewing (I'd find a way to blow myself up). The same Cenex Co-Op here sells #1 at the pump and there are a couple places that will even pump Heating oil. To bad I havent seen a BP in this town in years (wait isnt one of the outfits like Conoco or Arco owned by BP with the little BP emblem in the bottom of there signs??) and I have, until today, never heard of Amco.

 

Amoco was consistently rated the best fuel in the country gas wise - and was bought by bp..amocos stations are pretty widespread in this half of the country.

BP supplies several Arco stations on the west coast with ECD-1, their version of ULSD. Check bpdirect's site and I believe there's a listing of which arco stations carry it. However, the only thing ULSD will do for you is make it burn cleaner, and possibly have less lubricity.