So money isn't the factor is it. Most people don't care about mpg if they did they would air up their tires. It's the ones that do care about money and mpg who will do the experimenting to make the hydrogen work. Yes I keep my tires at max pressure.

The big car mfg are working on hydogen power. Exactly how they are useing hydrogen I don't know but it is being talked about by the media.

 

Wow! Is this ever a long one!
Tree Dr, Your scan guage has a fuel rate funtion on it which would tell you how much fuel you are burning per hour.
Why not just let your truck idle and then slowly add the power to your bottle slowly raising how much gas is added and watch to see if the fuel rate will drop at some point?
It might give you a base line on how much is too much and how little is not enough and could give you a chance to post any real gains with real numbers.
It may even give you a way to multiply your curent used in the bottle times rpm to give you a better test setting for hyway testing.
Lets say you find say 3 amps gives you your best or lowest fuel use at idle 750 rpm.
you could then try 6 amps at 1500 rpm.
If my memory serves me right the gas output should double when the current input is doubled.
It may work out that you will have to record volage as well and then use wattage instead of just current.
I like to keep an open mind on these things as lots of things are common now that were deemed imposible 50 years ago.
20 years ago diesel full of sulphur was sprayed at less than 2500 psi.
Now the common rail spray ultra low sulphur diesel at over 25000 psi.
Maybe the sulphur and hydrogen didn't like each other on the early experiments.
I just used that as an example but hey thing always do and will change!
Look at all the poeple that laughed at Wilbur and Orvil trying to make a bycicle fly!

 

I finally did put the hydrogen on my truck today. I'll give the fuel rate measurement a try, I'm not sure when though.

 

HI Tree DR I am also running hydrogen and see a 40% increase my mileage I am running mine on a Sonoma with 12 plates I have tried the coiled wire design the plate was in a 1/2 GAL container and also the coil design the coil seemed to last longer than the plate design and what type of metal are you using 304 or 301 stainless or something else your bigger design has helped to prevent overheating witch I have been having to deal with a smaller design.
Can you give us some pacific’s about your design?????

 

Yes burning hydrogen is can be corosive but not to your engine it is the exhaust and other places where there is less heat the cure is stainless exhaust. stanley myers inveted a car to run on pure hydrogen. check it out google it

 

works perty good I had mine working for about 5000 miles and 4 roung trips of about a 1000 miles but it was a gas burner the difference is you haft ti run an effie controler on gas not on diesel. but after 5000 mile the plates are perty much destroyed but the site is smack booster www.smacksboosters.110mb.com/Smack.pdf there you can get your free plans it made enough hho I was running 1/2 water 1/2 gas arround town but had to turn it down would get a runnaway on the highway but in a bigger container would be great I think.

 

Yes the hho does affect the o2 sensors because the side affect of burning hho or browns gas is left over o2 coming out of your exhaust there is a couple of cures for this one is a efie electronic fuel injection enhancer can either be hooked up to your 02 sensors or your map manifold absolute pressure or manifold airflow sensor both do the same thing one reads vacuum and the other reads air flow, either way you can manually control the amount of gas your motor is getting it has worked for me I went from 18 mph to 35 mph over a 5000 mile average. with diesel from what I have read you don't haft to worry about this the more hho the less fuel you need at same rpm what is left over at an idle just sit there and wait to be sucked in, unless you hook it directly to the back side of your turbo then you haft to let some air in your tank because your under a vacuum and water boils at room temp when it under 17" of vacuum or more witch will evaporate all of your water without it being hho just steam the way you are doing seems to be the best way from my experience but if you build one out of plates use 301 stainless instead of 304 the light switches are 304 don't last as long and corrode pretty easy.

 

No offence, but do you have a chip on your shoulder or do you work for a company that feels threaten by real people who can spend a few dollars and actually gain some results? I am not sure what gender you are, but big deal if you have a minor degree from A&M. A piece of paper is just that and doesn't mean you can produce anything.

Excuse me guys, but the hard nose bashing from this person is ridiculous. I enjoyed reading the thread. Good luck on your trials!

Darrell

 

Thanks again!
I've not taken time to do any more work with my hydrogen for a while. Haven't even kept up with the one on my truck. Thanks for some more info I'll have to check it out.

 

It means I have tried in a scientific environment to produce improved results with Hydrogen.....heck I was a poor college student who hoped it would work....it doesn't. I am just trying to keep folks from wasting their money. No chip.....just hate ignorant people who profess that it works, when it's not possible. I wish it would work.....I'd like to save money....can you name any large fleets who stand to save millions of dollars in fuel if it would work......thought not. Your excused from not being able to handle a good debate.

 

Keeping an eye on this one...................

 

good debate...I am very involved in politics. You want to debate. Bring it on Annabelle.

 

Here is a couple of web sites that I found that can help you with some hho generator designs I am thinking about building a 8 or 9 plate 6x6 316 stainless steel plate dry cell that adds water as needed all you do ad distilled water to the bubbler and can produce up to 3liters per minute also will be running a pwm pulse width modulator that will step down the voltage and up the amps you only need 1.5 volts per cell to get max hho if set up right. I probably will not be able to do this for a wile do to being deployed to Iraq
I have done allot of research especially since I have been deployed and yes it does work or the military wouldn't have made a contract with a company in Clearwater FL to be able to get our HMVV’s and other diesel equipment to run on either strait hho or diesel or a mix.

http://pmgen.com/hhoscambusters/index.php?topic=12.0
http://www.xadogel.com/store/default.asp?Category=3
http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2394
http://www.convert2hybrid.com/build-...enerators.html
http://waterfuel.100free.com/own_electrolyser.html

 

So....prove your point..........scientifically that is.

 

I'm not trying to get in peeing contest here, BUT, according to all the "smart people", a bumble bee can't fly. Sientifically proven that weight of bee, area of wings, speed of wing movement etc, it is impossible for it to lift off and fly. The only problem is that someone forgot to tell the bee.