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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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I sell them cheaper then that.

Also on the internal vs external fuel pumps, Espar still sells both varieties the external is just a more flexible setup, they also sell a unit with an external water pump. It really just depends on application. All of the 3rd gen dodge kits use an internal fuel pump kit, all of the other truck kits use and external fuel pump kit. Lots of options and varieties.

Cool stuff. I guess I'll have to talk to you when I have the funds for one.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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I did an install that we used a 5L windshield washer tank. This will provide a calculated 8hrs of minimum run time (in reality it was more like 12hrs) or about two weeks of preheats in the morning. The two liter pop bottle should give you a minimum of 3.5hrs of run time.

I have a number of customers, that run a separate fuel tank for their Espar's as this allows them to run kerosene, which runs much better at below -25c, as well as it doesn't carbon up the heater nearly as quickly as diesel does.
I got it hooked up tonight and its working. Just now something occurred to me - Im just using a 2L bottle with a rubber grommet through the cap (4 mm line)...is there any danger of diesel fumes getting sucked into the intake?

Didnt even consider it until now - it probably sounds stupid but now Im second guessing myself. What do you guys think?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dvst8r

I have a number of customers, that run a separate fuel tank for their Espar's as this allows them to run kerosene, which runs much better at below -25c, as well as it doesn't carbon up the heater nearly as quickly as diesel does.


They mount the tank under the hood?



Thanks BTW Brett!
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Doj Dewd
any tips/advice on the install shane? where did you mount unit and 7 day timer?
Mine is kind of hard to see since its partly mounted under the battery tray and on the fender. Like I said, room is limited on a shortbox truck - or at least that was what I found. Anyway, I snapped a couple of pics for you:

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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What kind of intake are you running? Whats the black box just prior to your timer? Looks like each of our kits are different.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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What kind of intake are you running? Whats the black box just prior to your timer? Looks like each of our kits are different.
Stage 1 AFE with the torque tube (which is a pain BTW).

The Black Box is the radio reciever as I also have the keyfob remotes.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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I just put my espar on my truck a couple weeks ago and wow why don't these trucks come stock with them. I let it run for about 45 min and its at 130'F it took two of us to put it in, in under two hours and paid 1100$ for it.. well worth the time and money
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
They mount the tank under the hood?



Thanks BTW Brett!
Yup.

This is also my plan for my Jetta, whenever I get around to installing it...
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Is there any concern with diesel/kerosene getting into the intake and causing a runaway? My fuel bottle isnt completely sealed.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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I can't answer that one, as to my knowledge it has never happened, but I too would like to know in theory if there is any real possibility.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Thanks.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Not enough evaporative fumes from Diesel, not sure on Kerosene. My question is that if you use these other fuel storage units, is it legal? I get enough safety clowns asking questions about the heater never mind showing up with a washer tank (not fuel rated) full of mystery fuel... They are concerned about me running the heater on site, but leave their trucks running. I have to explain how controlled the Espar is to any bumps in fuel or burn temp.

Tight fit Doc.. :
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Tight fit Doc.. :



Yeah, but on the upside I added a bunch of new cuss words to my repertoire...
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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no kidding tight fit!!!

tate and i got the espar d5 installed pn my truck. took a hell of a long time, but it's done right and done well. the thing works as advertised on initial observations - we'll see how it works day to day now. the timer seems pretty straight forward, just have to do some reading and play with it to get it all figured out.

thanx again tate, huge help with the install - it would have taken me at least twice as long with you there. i don't know about you, but i needed a drink after that day was done - enjoy your CR!!!
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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Yeah, but on the upside I added a bunch of new cuss words to my repertoire...
I am always looking for new ones, please share.

Originally Posted by Doj Dewd
no kidding tight fit!!!

tate and i got the espar d5 installed pn my truck. took a hell of a long time, but it's done right and done well. the thing works as advertised on initial observations - we'll see how it works day to day now. the timer seems pretty straight forward, just have to do some reading and play with it to get it all figured out.

thanx again tate, huge help with the install - it would have taken me at least twice as long with you there. i don't know about you, but i needed a drink after that day was done - enjoy your CR!!!
No prob. I hope you like yours as much as I like mine. And thanks for the 80 oz of rye. I was thinking you picked up 26's. If we had some mix, we could've cracked it in the shop.
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