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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Wierd, truck wouldn't start.....

Went to the bank, and when I went to leave my truck wouldn't start. I tried about 40 times to start it and nothing. So I call the dealer, and once he said I would need to tow it there, she turned over. I went straight home, turn the truck off and restarted her about 5 times without a hitch. The thing is that when she wouldn't start I didn't hear anything.

What should I look for, because it almost seems like a short somewhere, or something in the ignition. Any ideas?
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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If an automatic, maybe it wasnt fully in park???????
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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If it's not turning over could be the starter solenoid, I went on a trip and we stopped at the grocery store on our way back and it wouldn't turn over when we go back. Called the tow truck and as he was pulling in it cranked. Guess because it got hot? Changed out the starter and never did it again.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Check the yellow wire by the starter! There's a metal bracket there that can wear through the yellow wire and cause it to ground out so it won't turn over.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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I am going through the same thing, truck has lots of power but will not crank. Has done it about 3 times in the last 40 days. I finally had mine hauled in to the dealer, it sat there for about 3 days, and when they went to bring it in to look at it, it started right up.

Then they proceeded to test my charging system and tell me there was nothing wrong. I already knew the charging system was fine, and told them that when it was hauled in. All right no big deal I thought, until the dealer tried to stick me with a $80 bill for the work. I only have 51,000 km's on the truck, so this should be under warrenty right?

Ahhh, I have vented, feel so much better now. I will check the wire by the starter. Thanks
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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There is a resistance installed somewhere in the solenoid circuit. It reduces the voltage from 12v to 6 or 7 volts. Sometimes if bad (or spotty) the solenoid voltage will be so low it won't activate the starter solenoid.
I had to go into my fuse/relay box on my 2000 and jump 12 volts to the solenoid relay. I was only getting 3 volts to the solenoid and it would not pull the solenoid in.
I simply put a wire from 12 volts under the relay pin when I plugged the relay back in. It always started after that.
I never did determine why I was only getting 3 v to the solenoid relay.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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I just checked that wire, and sure enough, it had rubbed through the plastic and was touching the wire against that metal bracket. Pushed it tight against the bracket and it wouldn't crank, pulled it away and no problem.

Unbelievable.

Thanks guys, the knowledge on this site never ceases to amaze me!
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by northernwheeler
I just checked that wire, and sure enough, it had rubbed through the plastic and was touching the wire against that metal bracket. Pushed it tight against the bracket and it wouldn't crank, pulled it away and no problem.

Unbelievable.

Thanks guys, the knowledge on this site never ceases to amaze me!
I REALLY hate to ask but can someone post a picture of where this is? Sorry, I just have NO idea where to look......
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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OK I found the wire, and sure as heck, it was rubbing thru it. I'll take a picture of it, after my camera recharges, then other people will know what to look for....
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Great, because I went and took pics, but there appears to be an issue getting them from the camara to the computer.(Unfortunatly I think I am the issue)
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Great, because I went and took pics, but there appears to be an issue getting them from the camara to the computer.(Unfortunatly I think I am the issue)
LMAO, it happens to the best of us.

Here's the picture. You can see the yellow wire and the bracket right above it. All I did was push the wire down and out of the way....



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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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im blind where is the yellow wire on the pic above???
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wreedCTD
im blind where is the yellow wire on the pic above???
Right between the two black hoses where they turn upwards..... If you look through your left wheel well you'll see it......
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Glad to hear you guys got it fixed!

I'm amazed at how many people have this same problem. I can see the trucks leaving the factory with this mistake, but why aren't the techs told to check/move that wire on every truck they see?
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