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Old 08-02-2010, 10:56 AM
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The representative at the dealer would also have access to the coolant information by logging on to the DealerCONNECT network.
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Ok. I gotcha. Thanks. Found it. My manual is written a bit differently, but essentially says the same thing. I found some other info that helped me understand why Dodge recommends HOAT. I summarized it and included a link below:

Apparently regular OAT coolant (regular pink/orange/red ethylene glycol based stuff) lacks the fast-acting corrosion resisting chemicals that the old yellow/green stuff uses, but contains long-lasting, slower acting chemicals, ergo the 5-year/100,000 miles rating). It works best at protection aluminum and cast iron parts. The yellow/green stuff contains faster-acting chemicals and protects copper/brass best, and requires more frequent changes (2 years). The HOAT, which is also known as G-05, is a hybrid that incorporates some fast-acting corrosion inhibitors as well as the long-lasting ones, ergo the longer durability (5 years/100,000K miles) and the recommended use by Dodge. The pink/red OAT stuff is less effective at protecting copper/brass, whereas the yellow/green stuff is less effective at protecting aluminum/cast steel. The HOAT stuff contains chemicals that address both.

Link: http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Organic_Acid_Technology

The 5-year/100K Mopar stuff is HOAT. The 2-year Mopar stuff is non-HOAT. Dodges shows them both in their parts lists as recommended for the Dodge Ram with the 5.9L CTD. The pink stuff Autozone sells for about $7/gal is OAT.

The one type specifically not recommended by Dodge is Polypropylene-glycol, or non-toxic types of coolant.

Looks Like I need to do a flush and replace operation sometime in the near future, since I mixed about a gallon of OAT with my HOAT.
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The Mopar Antifreeze/Coolant 3-Year Formula — Embittered Green (Part No. 04267020AB) is an Ethylene glycol based three-year formulation. This coolant is referred to as an inorganic additive technology (IAT) formulation. This coolant is specified for first and second generation Dodge Ram vehicles factory filled with three-year coolant. I am not aware of a Mopar 2 year coolant as you mentioned.

The Mopar Antifreeze/Coolant 5-Year/100,000 Mile — Embittered (Part No. 68048953AA concentrate) is available in one gallon concentrate and a 50/50 pre-mix . This HOAT G-05 formulated coolant is specified for the third generation to present Dodge Ram vehicles, as they were factory filled with 5-year/ 100.000 mile coolant.

With that said, The Valvoline Zerex G-05 HOAT is a cost effective option vs the MOPAR G-05 HOAT. In addition, Zerex G-05 has a service life of 5 years or 150,000 miles (250,000 km).
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You're right. It was 3-year, not 2-year. However, I watched the parts/service guy look up my truck on his computer, and I read where both types were specified for my truck (see signature). Not to argue. I believe you. I will go with the HOAT, but I think others might benefit from being aware that both come up as appropriate for the 3rd gens on the Dodge parts computer, so that they don't get misled by price.
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ZEREX G-05. That's the stuff. NAPA and I think CarQuest has it.
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Originally Posted by thenrie
You're right. It was 3-year, not 2-year. However, I watched the parts/service guy look up my truck on his computer, and I read where both types were specified for my truck (see signature). Not to argue. I believe you. I will go with the HOAT, but I think others might benefit from being aware that both come up as appropriate for the 3rd gens on the Dodge parts computer, so that they don't get misled by price.
a dealer i went to only had 1 type of coolant for everything, and didnt know what HOAT was. some times it just makes you go HMMM.
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The guys at the Napa near me knew exactly what I was talking about when I said G-05 and even asked if it was for a diesel. $13 per gallon with my AAA discount.
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