Tranny Conversion
Tranny Conversion
What would it take too swap out a G56 for a NV5600 or a built auto?
What costs would be involved other than the tranny itself??
Thanks for the help
Jon.
What costs would be involved other than the tranny itself??
Thanks for the help
Jon.
I can understand why you might want to swap to a automatic tranny but I'm curious why you would consider a swap to a NV5600?
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
I can understand why you might want to swap to a automatic tranny but I'm curious why you would consider a swap to a NV5600?
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
I can understand why you might want to swap to a automatic tranny but I'm curious why you would consider a swap to a NV5600?
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
While the NV5600 is a proven cast iron trans, the aluminum G56 has stood up very well behind
some very high HP trucks after the dual mass clutch is upgraded. Oneton's truck from Sicamous B. C. comes to mind.
Reports seem to indicate that the G56 shifts smoother and quicker than the NV5600.
The 05-07 short OD gear can be corrected by taller tires & the 07.5 G56 got a taller OD gear similar to the NV5600.
The NV5600 is now out of production also.
Am I missing something? Why swap the G56 for a NV5600?
...Joe
Sorry guys, I wasn't aware of the failures of the G56 trannys.
Just off the top of my head:
- NV5600 flywheel & aftermarket clutch
- NV5600 bellhousing. The clutch hydraulics are the same
- NV5600. I'm sure Dodge didn't change the transfer
case bolt pattern but...
I'm considering a dually conversion and nearly bought a Mega-cab dually this spring.
My plan was to swap parts between the 2 trucks and then re-sell the other truck.
You could do the same. Any loss on reselling the donor truck would be the cost of the parts.
In your case most new buyers wouldn't notice the difference between the 2 transmissions.
As someone else once said, I'll be outside hugging my NV5600..
...Joe
Just off the top of my head:
- NV5600 flywheel & aftermarket clutch
- NV5600 bellhousing. The clutch hydraulics are the same
- NV5600. I'm sure Dodge didn't change the transfer
case bolt pattern but...
I'm considering a dually conversion and nearly bought a Mega-cab dually this spring.
My plan was to swap parts between the 2 trucks and then re-sell the other truck.
You could do the same. Any loss on reselling the donor truck would be the cost of the parts.
In your case most new buyers wouldn't notice the difference between the 2 transmissions.
As someone else once said, I'll be outside hugging my NV5600..

...Joe
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Call me weird, but I prefer the shifting of the NV5600. It feels nice and solid. There's something "light" and "car-like" with the G56, IMO.
I would not recommend swapping out to another manual. Go automatic. Gain 2 seconds in the quarter w/o adding any power. Several builders can make the trans hold all the power you can throw at it. $10k and you're done. It's what I should have done with my '03.
I would not recommend swapping out to another manual. Go automatic. Gain 2 seconds in the quarter w/o adding any power. Several builders can make the trans hold all the power you can throw at it. $10k and you're done. It's what I should have done with my '03.
Call me weird, but I prefer the shifting of the NV5600. It feels nice and solid. There's something "light" and "car-like" with the G56, IMO.
I would not recommend swapping out to another manual. Go automatic. Gain 2 seconds in the quarter w/o adding any power. Several builders can make the trans hold all the power you can throw at it. $10k and you're done. It's what I should have done with my '03.
I would not recommend swapping out to another manual. Go automatic. Gain 2 seconds in the quarter w/o adding any power. Several builders can make the trans hold all the power you can throw at it. $10k and you're done. It's what I should have done with my '03.
But I doubt I'll gain 2 seconds in the 1/4.....maybe a few tenths.
Anyway, a nice built auto is going to cost you what, maybe 7k? Then you need an ATS valve body and controller (slick setup, fully programmable), and there's a trick shifter linkage that goes right in place of your stock shifter and looks factory. (IIRC some guy on DTR did the swap and documented it) I forgot who makes it, but it eliminates the need for swapping steering columns, shifter, and cable etc. I think you also need front and rear drive shafts.
So, $10-12k minus what you sell your manual trans for...
JCleary is refering to my conversion. So far I am very happy with the results 
Here is the thread: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=150347

Here is the thread: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=150347
I would do the NV5600 conversion. You would have the strongest tranny and there would be a lot less hassle to do it. Just pick up a NV5600 out of a wreck and the driveshaft if you can. It should be a bolt-in conversion. I am sure there has been sled pullers converting on here.
The whole 2 second thing I doubt. I am running just as fast and sometimes faster than built autos with similar horsepower. If I work on traction issues off the line I know I can get 1/10th off the 60' and with a little shot of juice 2/10th's. Besides that, its just cooler banging those gears than just hitting the skinny pedal and hitting the lock up switch.
The whole 2 second thing I doubt. I am running just as fast and sometimes faster than built autos with similar horsepower. If I work on traction issues off the line I know I can get 1/10th off the 60' and with a little shot of juice 2/10th's. Besides that, its just cooler banging those gears than just hitting the skinny pedal and hitting the lock up switch.
Well I would prefer too stick with the manual. I still haven't achieved my goal of reaching the 11's......even though I am pretty sure i would have if this last g56 hadn't have blown 4th gear apart. I had a 60' of 1.72 and a 330' of 5.126....in comparison my 12.90 was done with a 2.134 60' and a 330 of 5.617.
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