Onelongshot

Has anyone used z max oil additive in thier 6.7. I just wonder if it would help get some of the carbon and soot out of the motor and keep it from building up in the motor. Any insight would be great. If you do use it do you use it every oil change or every other change.

surfram

Just stick to high quality 5-40 or 15-40 oil and quality filters. Z-max looks like snake oil to me.

Onelongshot

I don't know a darn thing about it. I overheard a couple of guys talking about in the loading dock and wanted to see if anyone was using it in thier cummins. Right know I am using valvoline premium blue 15w40. Stuff looks like black tar when you change it. I guess it is removing enough of the soot out of the engine. LOL LOL

cbrahs

Only way to keep the soot out and keep it cleaner longer is to delete egr and do a bypass filter. that will still soot up but not as fast.

ChrisM55

don't put snake oil in your engine!!!!!!

If you are worried about the soot buildup then unplug the EGR and do a dpf delete.

Chris

hovisimo

zmax is a scam.

source: www.google.com

don't buy this stuff

Onelongshot

Thanks for the info guys. I will leave well enough alone for now. Until I find a mod friendly dealer that is.

Shovelhead

From http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports and Oil-Chem Subsidiary
Performance Claims For zMax Auto Additives Are Unsubstantiated, FTC Charges

The Federal Trade Commission has filed suit in U. S. District Court seeking to halt false and misleading advertising for zMax auto additives and has asked the court to order refunds to consumers who bought the products. The agency alleges that enhanced performance claims for the product are unsubstantiated, that tests cited to support performance claims actually demonstrated that motor oil treated with zMax produced more than twice as much bearing corrosion than motor oil alone, and that the three different products - an engine additive, a fuel line additive and a transmission additive - were all actually tinted mineral oil. zMax is manufactured by Oil-Chem, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Speedway Motorsports, Inc. Speedway, based in Concord, North Carolina, operates NASCAR race tracks in the South and in California, in addition to marketing the zMax products.

According to the FTC complaint, since at least May 1999, zMax ran infomercials touting its "Power System," a $39 package of three additives to be used in the engine, fuel line and transmission of automobiles. The infomercials feature testimonials from consumers and race car drivers making claims such as, "I was averaging about 22 miles to the gallon on the highway. I installed the zMax and so I jumped right up to about 28 miles per gallon;" and "zMax guarantees a minimum of 10 percent gas mileage increase." Other marketing and promotional pieces claim, "zMax with LinKite has the scientific, CRC L38 proof it takes your car to the MAX!" and "Why zMAX Works - Cuts carbon build-up on valve stems 66%; Lowers wear on valve stems 66%; Lowers wear on piston skirts 60%; Reduces blow-by leakage 17.7%; Increases combustion efficiency 9.25%; Lowers fuel consumption 8.5% - Results of an independent CRC L38 test."

According to the FTC, the CRC L38 test is a standard auto industry tool to measure the bearing corrosion protection properties of motor oils. In February/March 1997, an independent laboratory performed two CRC L38 tests of zMax for Speedway and Oil Chem.
In those tests, motor oil treated with zMax produced more than twice as much bearing corrosion as motor oil alone.
The complaint also states that the defendants fabricated one "report" from the two test reports, eliminating the bearing corrosion results and all other negative test results, and then used that report and the "official laboratory results" - similarly edited to remove detrimental data results - as sales tools in the infomercial and on the zMax Web site.

The FTC's complaint alleges that the defendants did not possess and rely on reasonable substantiation for the following claims in the infomercial, on the Web site and in brochures that zMax:

increases gas mileage;

increases gas mileage by a minimum of 10%

reduces engine wear;

reduces or eliminates engine wear at startup;

reduces engine corrosion;

extends engine life; and

reduces emissions.

The agency's complaint also alleges that the defendants falsely represent that the results of the CRC L38 test proved that zMax:

increases gas mileage;

reduces engine wear;

extends engine life;

lowers fuel consumption by 8.5%

lowers wear on valve stems by 66%

lowers wear on piston skirts by 60%; and

cuts carbon build-up on valve stems by 66%.

Finally, the FTC charges that in consumer testimonials and endorsements in their advertising, the defendants did not have substantiation for the representation that the endorsers' experiences were, "The actual and current opinions, findings, beliefs, and/or experiences of those consumers; and the typical or ordinary experience of members of the public who use the product."

The FTC is asking the court to bar the defendants from violating the FTC Act, which prohibits deceptive acts and to order consumer redress or require that they give up their ill-gotten gains.

This case is the latest in a series of FTC law-enforcement initiatives targeting unsubstantiated claims made by auto additive manufacturers. The FTC previously halted allegedly deceptive advertising by the marketers of Dura Lube, Motor Up, Prolong, Valvoline, Slick 50, and STP, other major brands of engine treatment products.

The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0. It was filed in U.S. District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina, in Greensboro, January 31, 2001.

NOTE: The Commission authorizes the filing of a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated, and it appears to the Commission that a proceeding is in the public interest. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendants actually have violated the law. The case will be decided by the court.

Copies of the complaint are available from the FTC's web site at http://www.ftc.gov and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room 130, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint, or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357). The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide.

trik396

As stated, use a quality motor oil and nothing else. Soot is sub-micronic. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/100th of a micron. As long as it doesn't clump up (which a good oil will prevent) it will do no harm to your engine. Black oil isn't "bad" oil.

It takes awhile to get used to this fact, but, it is the truth.

Using a bypass filter is a good idea.

mysterync

BG products is the way to go!

dj_souvlaki

We used to use BG than switched to wynns products. I still prefer the BG machines compared to the wynns and their products.

mysterync

I switched to BG from Wynns lol.
I really like the BG products but I also like the Wynns vac. fuel tool. It works great on alot of the older TBI vehicles.
The diesel induction from BG is amazing on the 6.0L's

Dieselbuilder

bg oil product has had its web site pulled?????????????

mysterync

www.bgprod.com