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Off Road Diesel

Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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The tag/permit says it is used on a farm as farm equipment not on the highway,thats were the fudging is,it used to be you did not need it to be inspected as long as you were within 25 miles? or something(can't remember the miles) but now if you touch the road it needs to be but I am still supposed to be limited to "The area as to what pertains to the daily operation of said land and or property."

And we are picking up the bill for the other guy,some of us are tired of it and get around it,I am doing nothing worse then what our senator
and congresses men are doing,whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

I am not up to disputing this anymore,if my cousin,Millers gas & Oil,my accountant and myself are wrong I could careless,I drive over the speed limit,have a cut down shotgun,carry a spot light and a rifle with me up in the mountains,drive around road blocks,and use bit torrent downloads,have a non emissions legal truck,a fence not up to code as well, guess that makes me about the #1 most wanted on the FBI's list.

The guy asked about running off road D not the local laws were YOU live about it.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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I think that you should also keep in mind that laws are different in different locales. In some places it is legal to run marked diesel in farm vehicles on public roads and highways. Perhaps where you live it is not legal but for some it is. I legally burn marked fuel in my truck on public roads. I am not a tax evader. I am a farmer.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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I am not up to date on Canada rules on off road fuel , I was talking USA . Being a farmer my self I know there are a lot of special laws to compensate for the need to get equipment to the field . I know of none in the USA that allow the use of off road fuel for highway use . The argument that because some one else is a thief so it is alright for me to be one does not fly with me the prisons are full of people with that thinking . The fact he claims laws are for everyone else not him does rub me the wrong way but the last thing I wanted to do was insult a bunch of farmers in Canada or any were else for that mater . Farm tags were done away with were I live but they never entitled us to drive on the highway with off road fuel with a plated vehicle .
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Fire trucks legally run the "red" diesel.

A few months ago here in North Carolina the state was busting folks for running homemade bio that didn't have the road taxes paid on them. Made the newspaper.

Had a buddy get busted for red fuel in his road tractor a year or so ago, he had receipts showing all of his fuel purchases and the numbers all added up, seems someone had made an error and filled an on road tank with off road fuel. Still cost him a bundle for a liar, I mean lawyer and he was right all along.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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i have ran it in my 06 since new and now its got 67k on it with no probs
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gunny
Fire trucks legally run the "red" diesel.

A few months ago here in North Carolina the state was busting folks for running homemade bio that didn't have the road taxes paid on them. Made the newspaper.

Had a buddy get busted for red fuel in his road tractor a year or so ago, he had receipts showing all of his fuel purchases and the numbers all added up, seems someone had made an error and filled an on road tank with off road fuel. Still cost him a bundle for a liar, I mean lawyer and he was right all along.
not just fire but any city, county, or state work vehicles like road maint. or snow removal- most fill up at the same pumps.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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True that all government vehicles can run off road legal and I have heard of no problem with them doing so . I have a friend who put it in his 6.0 and every time the truck would loose and injector . I never could see how it was related but he claims it was . Some states are really getting down on off road fuel and others are looking the other way for now . One thing is certain the fines in all the states make it on economical if your caught . They really came down on the farmers hard around here a few years back and have now let up some . My thinking is the hammer will be dropping again soon as more and more guys start using it again . I seen one farmer get nailed for his pickup and three semis parked in his yard . They came in and just started dipping , he never told me how much , just that is was not worth it by a long ways .
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by John Halter
I seen one farmer get nailed for his pickup and three semis parked in his yard . They came in and just started dipping , he never told me how much , just that is was not worth it by a long ways .
I don't run the red and agree with you about those that cheat and are running it but I gotta say if I caught someone on my private property messing around with my trucks there'd be trouble government agents or not.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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[quote=Pav1973;1819351]The tag/permit says it is used on a farm as farm equipment not on the highway,thats were the fudging is,it used to be you did not need it to be inspected as long as you were within 25 miles? or something(can't remember the miles) but now if you touch the road it needs to be but I am still supposed to be limited to "The area as to what pertains to the daily operation of said land and or property."

So running Off Road diesel is illegal in PA, You are using a permit That states farm use only which I would consider a spray pickup, fencing, pulling gravity boxes or non licenced trailers on the farm. This I have NO problum with I to can get this permit in ND. Where you are wrong is making the truck a daily driver I don't care if you have to drive 200 miles to get a part. You call it fudging I call it wrong.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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well back to the OP..... running dyed diesel in your truck will not hurt it at all as long as it is the 5.9.... the 6.7.... i dunno.... however, is it worth it??? i guess that would be your call but i would say no. i just got back from minnesota but while i was there (30 days) i had my tank tested twice.... the state patrol sat on the side of the road in town.... no way to get around them and they pulled over every single diesel.... badges or not.... car, truck, jeep, vw bug.... didn't matter they got us all..... now in MN you can refuse to let them test your fuel but that will cost you $1,000 for every container you don't let them check.... but get caught with dyed fuel and it is a $2,000 fine.... don't know what it's like in your area but just giving an example..... so...... is it really worth it???
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