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Lift Pump Woes

Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Lift Pump Woes

So i'm pretty sure my lp is out, the truck threw codes, po0628,0480, 0628again. Did you know that the in tank update is $350 from the dealership. That is CRAP, the '02 lp at the smalltown parts store was $172. Why do they do this to us? I could get the walbro kit for $40 more but I can't bum a ride for a week until it gets here by ups. WWHHHHHYYYYYY, WWWHHHHHYYYYY. Dirty Words
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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I Hope you have better luck in Texas then I have here in South Jersey.
My Lift Pump went out on the 16th the dealer had my truck since the 17th
I just got done talking with them and the pump is on back order. So you may
be bumming a ride anyway. The pump should be covered under warranty.
Did the dealer say you would have to pay $350?
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Yes, as above the lift pump is origionaly part of the engine and therefore it should be under warranty. Maybe $100 deductable (determined by if truck is over or under 5 years old. Over 5 years under 100K $100, if under 100K under 5 years then no charge. After it is changed to intank pump not sure how they would classify. (In my mind they have removed it from the engine so maybe no longer an engine warrantied part?).
PS.... Remove the Quad box and all traces prior to your delaer trip for warranty question unless your dealer is mod friendly. If he is not you remaning warranty willl be gone.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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its funny you guys mention warranty...they never asked how many miles were on the truck or any thing and I never thought about it, so its out of my pocket now. You know that no where in north texas, and presumably around the country can you find the old style lp. The main Cummins Southern Plains warehouse in Arlington couldn't or wouldn't even help me. Apparently the medium duty trucks have a different lp setup too. Now I have this ridiculous weather meter looking intank module with lp incorporated, I can hardly get one of the fuel tank strap nuts to move. This of course was after it took me an hour and a half to get most of 7/8ths a tank of fuel siphoned out. Never knew this could be such a PIA. How does dodge feel that a 20 min job should be changed into a half a day job rather than just fixing the pump design or moving it closer to the tank? Ohh did I mention that my florr jack decided to give up on me today too. so I guess its a good thing I can't get the nut loose. I need a happy pill thatll make all this go away.
Nick
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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donhov, Where can I find this warranty info my truck is 3-1/2 yrs old and I just picked it up from the dealer with new lift pump installed and they charged me $100 deductable.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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No deductable on the Cummins FUEL SYSTEM warranty.Only on POWERTRAIN.Get your $100 back.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Where can I find that in writing so I can show them?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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First try your owners manual.Theres been MANY posts and threads on the subject.Lots of posts about dealers doing such.I think more out of not knowing the poicy and prochedure then out of intent to get your C note.Call or go by with your receipt and ask for the service manager and say theres a mistake here.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slimpicken
its funny you guys mention warranty...they never asked how many miles were on the truck or any thing and I never thought about it, so its out of my pocket now. You know that no where in north texas, and presumably around the country can you find the old style lp. The main Cummins Southern Plains warehouse in Arlington couldn't or wouldn't even help me. Apparently the medium duty trucks have a different lp setup too. Now I have this ridiculous weather meter looking intank module with lp incorporated, I can hardly get one of the fuel tank strap nuts to move. This of course was after it took me an hour and a half to get most of 7/8ths a tank of fuel siphoned out. Never knew this could be such a PIA. How does dodge feel that a 20 min job should be changed into a half a day job rather than just fixing the pump design or moving it closer to the tank? Ohh did I mention that my florr jack decided to give up on me today too. so I guess its a good thing I can't get the nut loose. I need a happy pill thatll make all this go away.
Nick
You want to replace the filter mounted lp with the same? Go here. You'll pay though.
http://www.hoeslidiesel.com/specials.htm
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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You want to replace the filter mounted lp with the same? Go here. You'll pay though.
http://www.hoeslidiesel.com/specials.htm
I thought the OEM 3rd gen lp was under $150 from Cummins? Why is it twice that much now?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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Do a search in your owners manual. As long as you have the Cummins 100K warranty the fuel pump is an engine, emmission (fuel system) part and therefore it's under warranty. If you don't have warranty book call Chrysler Customer care line and ask. They should be able to tell you as much, then go back to your dealer and demand your $100 back.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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I payed the 100 dollar deductible to get my lift pump changed to the in-tank pump. Was an 800 dollar job for it. i was fine with that.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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All this talk about the lift pump thats on the fuel filter I had to go and look where mine was, its still on the fuel filter, it is still good BUT do you guys recommend changing it to the intank one BEFORE I have a problem? Oh and my warranty is long gone I have 260k on her.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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The service manager called me and he is giving my $100 back.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Do I get a commision for the information given? I think you are about the 10th person I have told about this racket that many of the dealers try pulling. Can you imagine how much money various delaers make from people that don't have sites like this for inforamation and just pay the deductable and the dealers are not honest enough to return it when Chrysler dosent want it as it is warranty.

Sorry for the rant but I am beginning to really hate dealers and their service writers.
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