I like that test..........

Bob

 

the dealer never said anything about overfuling or fuel pressure from diagnostics all he said is that he saw the gagit on the windsheild called his rep and he said that anything from that company (bullydog) voids warrrenty than he kept saying stuff about added horse power and i said prove it and he couldnt at three diffrent times. if he located the problem via diognostics all he had to do was explain that to me they dont know much about diesels.

and as far as the downloader causeing the problem chrysler and everyone on here knows the autos are juck and go. downloader or no downloader and dont act like i am a bad guy for trying to get my truck fixed cause unless daddy bought you your truck and all your toys than you would do the same thing so sorry for trying for somthing free befor spending $3000-$5000 on a tranny

 

sorry vzdude i didnt know he did have he never said he did, and so i do beleve your right, he got caught.

 

Guilty till proven innocent

 

Uhm, you are.

Some of us here are honest.

You just tried to steal $4,000 and then say you aren't the bad guy? Sounds like every other criminal if you ask me.

Anyway, a full Goerends trans is barely that much and you can put however much HP you want through it.

Thanks for trying to make my next truck purchase more expensive.

Merrick

 

Auto's aren't "junk" #1. I have over 150K on mine with 0 trouble ( with added HP I might add). And #2 I have worked for everything I have ever got. Nothing has ever been "given" in my direction. And #3 YES you are a "bad guy" for trying to pull one over on Dodge. It just goes to show your character. If you'll try to pull one over on Dodge, you'll try it on anyone. Had you done a little research beforehand you would have KNOWN that further upgrades were required to handle the added horsepower. You remind me of a guy in high school that whined and cried when he got caught speeding, or got caught cheating on a test! The dealer may not have been very well educated on your little " gagit on the windshield", but they smelled a rat. With a little bit of research they could have had all the info they needed. You are just mad because they didn't know EXACTLY what you had. Your warranty is offered by Dodge. They set the rules. Whine all you want. You broke the rules. You got caught. End of story.

 

I waited until my warranty was out before even adding anything. I can see by your profile you are a younger guy and can say many of us have been caught with our pants down and it's hard to come clean but forget about it. If it voided the warranty then chalk it up to experience and move on. I realized a long time ago that it's not worth trying to prove your point if your wrong or you violated a policy. If you look at it from the dealers point of view you may understand why they can't warranty parts that are subjected to something they weren't designed for. One of the reasons I won't add any real power is because I can't afford to spend 3k on a new tranny and until I can, stock power will have to do.

 

Go back and read the paperwork that came with whatever you installed. All those things say they may void the warranty.

 

Not trying to be devils advocate but I would still make the dealer prove that your downloader smoked the tranny. If your tranny comes out looking like something I could seal my asphalt driveway with, then yes, your downloader is a VERY likely cause. if a non-load bearing part failed causing a load bearing part to fail(i kno its crude but you get the idea, besides im an idiot when it comes to trannys), then odds are the downloader was not the culprit. I do agree with pay to play...i cant stand to see all hese young punks out there riding around in these new dodge cummins bought with daddys money, sitting on 22's with stacks and every programmer imaginable running the ever living snot out of them, so I agree with most everyone who says pay to play here and i believe he is in the wrong...BUT, I would still make dodge prove it

 

The dealer doesn't have to prove anything and most likley will laugh at this idea. It's not rocket science here. You play, you pay. In fact, they have allready been throuh thier time of proving when the waranty got voided.

From thier point of view, there's no need for anyone to add anything BullyDog or other brand to thier truck if they are not modifying it in any way.

There's no need to monitor anything from thier point of view if your just using it like it was intended.

This is why you wait till the warranty expires to add stuff or take it off before you drag it in for service, or accept the risk that your warranty may be voided. And in some cases now, taking things off is still no sure bet that they still won't find traces of it. I would be surprised if the first thing checked on every deisel truck that comes in for service is to look for a peice of velcro on the underhood fuse box.

 

This is a quote from the Bully Dog website. It's the product information on the Outlook:

"The Bully Dog Triple Dog Outlook Monitor takes priority access of your engine and gives you control over your vehicle’s power levels with the press of a button."

This gives them all the reson they need to void your warranty.

 

Yes this all could have been avoided if you just removed the outlook monitor before taking it in to service.

 

When did they prove warranty got voided? Did I miss a post or something?

I see your points, but with your theory, you are saying if I take my truck in because my starter kicked the bucket and they see guages all over the place and they know I have a proggrammer and what not, they can void my warranty and not fix my starter and tell me my guages and programmer caused my starter to go? I think not.. They might try, but they will lose every time, that is what magnuson-moss and a small claims court is for.

READ:http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...s_Warranty_Act

READ:http://http://www.impalaclub.com/naisso/magmoss.htm

READ:http://http://www.law.cornell.edu/us..._15_10_50.html

This cats case is a little different, i realize that. his tranny took a crap because he was flogging the snot out of it at every redlight and he wants someone else to pay for his fun times while they lasted, which is wrong and his programmer is almost 100% the cause of the problem, but I'll be darned if a dealer is going to void my warranty and refuse to pay costs on fixing a problem that WAS NOT a result of using a programmer/downloader, aint gonna happen. im not saying this dude IS right by any means, nor am I disagreeing with pay to play, im just saying he HAS the right to appeal the dealer's refusal to warranty the tranny...that is all. Should he? NO, he is a tool and he fried his tranny, if he appeals, they will make a fool of him.

 

^^^ Agree 100%. The dealer is in the wrong (ILLEGAL!) for voiding the warranty without proof that his aftermarket parts caused the breakdown.

I'm not advocating for stealing or defrauding anyone, but the warranty is not held at Chrysler's leisure, it's a contract that was purchased and the terms must be honored by both parties.

The OP did not honor his part of the warranty by modifying the truck beyond its designed capacities, but Chrysler backed out of their end of the contract unilaterally and without proof of any wrongdoing.

 

Thank you for at least taking the time to read my post and understand the point that im trying to get across. I was only trying to say that the dealer NEEDS and is REQUIRED to uphold their end of the warranty.