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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Exclamation Lift pump quit.

I just changed my fuel filter for the first time, and turned the key to let the lift pump cycle to get the last of the air out of the filter housing. There is no sign of life from the pump. It cycled before I changed the filter, when I warmed the engine to change the oil.

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Did I mess something up?
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Did you just turn the key to "on" or did you bump the starter.

You have to bump the starter to get the lift pump to pump.


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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Before I changed the filter, I could turn the key to the run position, and the pump would run for 20+/- seconds. Now nothing.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Not familiar enough with the '99 fuel filter cannister, but could you have bumped the wires to the lift pump when you changed it?

Other than that, your lift pump is probably dead.

Pretty sure you have to actually bump the key to the start position to have the lift pump actually pump.

Just turning the key to "on" flips the relays for the grid heaters, that might be what you are hearing.

You broke prime by changing the filter, prior to that the VP44 was sucking it's own fuel,
which it is capable of doing if the system is already primed.
However, it only pumps enough to feed the injectors, it doesn't pull enough to cool itself.



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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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If you still get nothing after "bumping" the starter.
(Turn the key to the start position for a split second, just enough to engage the starter, not long enough to actually start the engine. Leave the key in the run position.)
This will allow the pump to run for approx. 30 seconds.

Then it's time to contact your dealer if under warranty, or your local Cummins or Auto Parts house for a new lift pump.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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A "dead" lift pump might sound like it is running after bumping the starter, but isn't actually pumping anything.


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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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The good ole' lift pump scenario, I feel for ya', been there myself. Good luck man, cumminsboy
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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MAKE SURE YOU TRY TO CRANK THE ENGINE (key all the way forward to the crank or start position) FOR A SPLIT SECOND FIRST.

When my first (of three) FP went down I tapped on it with the light end of a 10" crescent wrench right after I "bumped" the key to the start position for a half second. It started working and hummed long enough to pump out the air and get it cranked and running after about five "starter bump" cycles. It was DOA by the time I got the new one put on the next morning. You might put a meter across the FP leads to make sure there's electricity to the FP and or disconnect check and reconnect the FP's electrical connection. Then check the fuse and relay. All else fails go get a new pump. It's easy to hang one.
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