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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 03:46 PM
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Windshield

Putting the windshield in and cracked it beyond fixing. Where do you find replacements these days. None of the on the spot places carry it. If anyone has one they would want to part with pm me. Ugh bad day.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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Ahhh that sucks man!! Hope you can get one quickly.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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I called Safelite and they had them in stock.

When I called a local installer, he told me that I was better off using the original glass I had, vs replacing it with new, as the new glass is made "cheaper". I don't know, but I wound up using my original glass. He said the real issue is that the new glass is a little thinner, and installing it can be particularly difficult, as the OEM seal's gap is a little wider. Said he had issues with fitment before.

Safelight was cheaper than the local guy, but I wanted his expertise to reinstall my old glass.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Was the safelite glass thinner? Curious now.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Lmc truck might have what I need. I'll call them tomorrow.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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I had mine replaced by a local glass guy. He had to order it but had it the next day. $150 installed.

Mine fits fine but all the new glass isn't laminated like the old ones were. The new ones are coated instead of having plastic sandwiched in between layers.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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I can confirm the new glass is thinner, not just for the older rigs but for pretty much all of them.

We did the glass on my kid's '04 1500 after we bought it and it will "star" when hit by anything harder than bird poop. We're on the 3rd replacement now and I'm looking for something thicker or as close to OEM as possible.



-Kris
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 05:49 AM
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Called all around and no one carries this windshield in my area. I called safelite and they said the shaded glass would cost me around $150 and then $180 install. I wanted the shaded window, the rep told me the glass is thinner than oem as not many companies match the quality of vehicle manufacture.

When I cracked my window and went to remove it last night it shattered into a million pieces. I spent a good two hours cleaning the glass from around the hood. Something tells me this wasn't suppose to happen. Called LMC truck (Guess they're open on sunday!) and I ordered my glass from them. The guy told me their glass should exceed oem and they usually have a larger window seal to fit to the window. After talking to the gentleman there, I was putting the window in wrong. I was doing the rope trick and that wont work well on these windows with the locking seal. You put the seal in first and then with a pick or a soft window tool work the seal around the window using wd40 as lube.

I was hoping I could get some measurements of my old window but I don't think the old one is "old". I guess the only way to tell if it's better is if the window is thicker than the new one. The window wasn't cheap, little over $200 and I will have to attempt the install once more.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bannerd
I was doing the rope trick and that wont work well on these windows with the locking seal. You put the seal in first and then with a pick or a soft window tool work the seal around the window using wd40 as lube.

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FWIW,

DO NOT USE WD40. It will wreak havoc on the seal over time (his words, not mine) , and it doesn't dissipate. Buy a can of "GOJO hand cleaner in the original forumula. The stuff works great as a lubricant, and washes away off the truck once the seal is installed. It helps significantly with the installation. It's the only stuff he uses.

Use an acid brush and brush it liberally in the channel.

I was there when the local glass guy did my window. If you don't have the right tools, you will be lucky if you don't rebreak the new windshield. I watched a guy with 25 years experience struggle to put my windshield in, and luckily, I was there to "hold it in place" at the right times he needed me. The suction tools, and window picks he had are all specialty items, and he did the install like you said, without the rope, and seal in truck first.


Worth EVERY dollar I spent, and then another $40 tip to do what he did. No freagging way I would have been able to do what he did, especially with how hard it was for him....
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
FWIW,

DO NOT USE WD40. It will wreak havoc on the seal over time (his words, not mine) , and it doesn't dissipate. Buy a can of "GOJO hand cleaner in the original forumula. The stuff works great as a lubricant, and washes away off the truck once the seal is installed. It helps significantly with the installation. It's the only stuff he uses.

Use an acid brush and brush it liberally in the channel.

I was there when the local glass guy did my window. If you don't have the right tools, you will be lucky if you don't rebreak the new windshield. I watched a guy with 25 years experience struggle to put my windshield in, and luckily, I was there to "hold it in place" at the right times he needed me. The suction tools, and window picks he had are all specialty items, and he did the install like you said, without the rope, and seal in truck first.


Worth EVERY dollar I spent, and then another $40 tip to do what he did. No freagging way I would have been able to do what he did, especially with how hard it was for him....
Aww good advice. I was going to use soapy water or my tire stuff when I seat tires. My brother and I are going to tackle this. I was able to get the window in twice while I had the dash out. The dash is what makes this nearly impossible. The mini coopers have the same seal with a locking strip. Always make sure to never cut that strip even but cram it in a inch longer. Hoping it goes well, I don't trust the guys around here, to many times have I been caught with my pants down.
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Old Jul 21, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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good video of how to do it;

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Old Jul 21, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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I paid 120 for the front windshield installed at my local "best price auto glass" type place. 100 for the rear. All new.
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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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When I had my windshield replaced (about 12 years ago), the guy did it pretty much the same way as the schmoes in the video you posted.

He used WD-40 on everything, and I have not had any trouble with the gasket. My favorite for this type of stuff is Murphy's oil soap, though.

He slid the windshield in , and managed to get both the bottom & top started, so it really slid all the way into place, from about a foot away from the drivers side into the passenger's side. Then he worked the last foot or so top & bottom & the drivers side pillar section with nylon prybars & a hook.

He also pulled the old key in tight, and cut about 2" extra off. His idea was that the key cinched the lip around the new glass, so it needed to be pulled tight like that, not stuffed back in if it was too long.
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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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Okay, the glass has arrived. It is the 1mm thicker than the older glass. My old window isn't safelite, that was the good stuff back in the day.
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