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what would you do if the engine was already on the stand

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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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what would you do if the engine was already on the stand

I am swapping a Cummins into my 76 m880. I wanted to do a little preventative maintenance while I have the engine on the stand. The motor has about 200k on it. it was a plow truck but should still have plenty of life left in it.

I plan on taking care if the Killer dowel Pin and as many gaskets/seals as prudent (i don't think the head gasket is worth it). I'll also check the bearings and valve clearances. paint it and drop it in.

So since i am not too experienced I was hoping i could get some advice.

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what else would you check while it was on the stand?

And anyone have a good source on a gasket kit? Has anyone tried the cheap fleabay ones? are they anywhere near as good as a cummins OEM or even good enough?

Thanks for any advice
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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if its a non intercooled motor do the headgasket for sure. the non intercooled motor had a poor headgasket to start with.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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If it was mine, I would be fairly tempted to remove the gear housing and replace its gasket, then loctite the internal bolts when it goes back together. It's a fairly big job, requiring camshaft removal, but it's a lot easier now than when the engine's in the vehicle. Leaks and loose bolts are common enough to make it worthwhile, in my mind.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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Oil pan gasket is the only big one you can't do without lifting the motor up a bit.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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I'd run a compression check on it fer sure. It'd be a lot easier to ring it on the stand than in the frame.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by j_martin
I'd run a compression check on it fer sure. It'd be a lot easier to ring it on the stand than in the frame.
^^ This for starters.


Redo anything with a gasket or o-ring you think might need it. Loc-Tite the internals like torquefan said in his post, and then consider anything else you might want to do to it while it's out, like a nice paint job.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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I would redo all the seals, rear main.. front, oil pan, etc. Paint the motor.

Compression test would be a good one as well.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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Get a master rebuild kit and some wide bowl pistons, then have some fun with the head, swap the cam also.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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I would just do a hg while its out. Its simple enough to do.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. Sounds like I better do the head gasket since its a 89 non inter cooled motor. I'll def check the compression too.

Any one have a good source or info on a gasket kit?
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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Your nearest Cummins dealer, the kit will have the wrong valve seals but if you tell them they will trade out for the correct set, or at least mine did.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Would you guys ground the tappets down?
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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if i did a head gasket i would also get everything resurfaced to make sure i dont have problems down later. i hear of to many people reporting hg issues within 75000 miles of a change
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Also since its a non ic I'd venture to say the head has a few cracks...
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