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Steering coupler rebuild VS. Borgeson Shaft

Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Steering coupler rebuild VS. Borgeson Shaft

What is the advantage of the Borgenson shaft over just rebuilding the stock unit? From what i understand a rebuilt one will just wear out faster. is that the only difference? If that is the case i could rebuild the stock on about 29 times (according to the price listed in the sticky) until it pays off to get the Borgenson shaft.

Can anyone enlighten me to any more advantages?
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I thought the actual factory joint itself was just a peice of garbage and unsafe.

I thought i read in a thread somewhere that a borgeson shaft makes it steer easier.

I'd like to know this to..
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossy's son
I thought the actual factory joint itself was just a peice of garbage and unsafe.

I thought i read in a thread somewhere that a borgeson shaft makes it steer easier.

I'd like to know this to..
what i understand is that the borgenson shaft uses a universal joint to connect the shaft to the coupler where the stock unit uses this.

(picture from of ramchargercentral.com)

that is the only visible difference i can see.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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I've had the Borgeson shaft for about 7-8 years, and I've never had to look at it again, before I bought it, I asked around and the rebuilt kit for the factory shaft was a waste of money.... wouldn't last more then a year..... Flaming River also makes/made a shaft with a grease fitting.... weather you can still buy one would be another question???
I'm sure the rebuild kit is way cheaper, but I'd rather fix it once.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by saddog
I've had the Borgeson shaft for about 7-8 years, and I've never had to look at it again, before I bought it, I asked around and the rebuilt kit for the factory shaft was a waste of money.... wouldn't last more then a year..... Flaming River also makes/made a shaft with a grease fitting.... weather you can still buy one would be another question???
I'm sure the rebuild kit is way cheaper, but I'd rather fix it once.
i usually like to do it right the first time also but i am so poor right now. if it gets me by for a few month i will be happy. I guess i just have to go to the dealership tomorrow and see if they have any and how much.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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I just rebuilt my factory slip joint using the link/kit on ramcharger. It still had quite a bit of play in it, so when I pulled it again to fix the bracket/frame I went with the borgeson.. It made a HUGE difference, no more turning the wheel from 10 to 2 just to keep it in the lane. If I could do it again, I would have done it sooner.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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On a 4x4 the Borgeson/Flaming River type shafts with a real u-joint are well worth the money. The 4X4 steering box position makes the joint operate at a severe angle (for the mickey-mouse factory joint) and they wear out pretty fast. On a 2wd truck the shaft is nearly straight and rebuilding the factory joint will fix you up for another 15 years.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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dont know how handy this info is but when i bought my new to me 92 it already had a u-joint installed...it has splines that match the input shaft on the steering box and a set screw to tighten it down...the other end has been fitted over the cut to length steering shaft and welded solid..very effective fix..no play in that end of the shaft...this appears to be the same type of ujoints that you buy for dirt track applications..they were about $35.00 at one time..havent bought any for some time now...we had to use them yrs ago to replace the flexible cable style of steering coupler... when i installed the new steering box i aligned the steering wheel with the front wheels ...ground a flat on the steering box input shaft to match the set screw location and installed...the spring pressure of the steering shaft would keep it from sliding off even if the set screw failed so its pretty much foolproof unless you cant weld...hope this is a help for others with limited funds
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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borgerson all the way i just wish i could afford one
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dstad
borgerson all the way i just wish i could afford one
you can buy the u-joint at six states and make your own shaft, and then no drilling a hole thru your gear box shaft
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:47 AM
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the east coasters dont have a six states.
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