1st Gen. Ram - All Topics Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. Anything prior to 1994 should go in here.

Filled up with diesel but it was gas. No power, white smoke, now what?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 8, 2018 | 10:08 PM
  #1  
crisbeis's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Seaside, Oregon
Angry Filled up with diesel but it was gas. No power, white smoke, now what?

I topped up with about ten gallons the other day and the green handle was pumping gas. The fuel supplier put premium in the diesel and diesel in the premium at the gas station. Five miles later I lost power and limped home for about a mile. When I shut her down, blue smoke kept coming out for 10 to 20 seconds.The supplier towed my truck to a diesel shop. The shop stated that they drained and filled the tank, replaced fuel filter, and added an additive. They said there was most likely a problem in the fuel system not related to little if any gas in the tank. When it was returned I started it and profuse white smoke was coming out. The engine ran rough, seemed like it was missing bad, and even blew white smoke rings out the exhaust! So now what? I'm thinking about having the injectors and injection pump inspected and rebuilt if necessary. Replace lift pump, fuel filter, clean all lines, compression test and bore scope the cylinders. Could the gas have caused this? Am I missing something? Am I overdoing it? I'm kind of freaking out because I like my truck. FWIW she has 275k miles on her and ran perfect until I fueled up. Great first post huh?
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 08:20 AM
  #2  
Lary Ellis (Top)'s Avatar
Admin Team Leader
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,514
Likes: 207
Hopefully you kept your receipt for the fuel because gas can indeed damage your fuel system. The TOTAL cost on the repairs is on the gas station and they know it, you are not the first to have this issue.

Bad fuel kills Injectors, Injector pumps etc....
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 08:56 AM
  #3  
maybe368's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,311
Likes: 566
From: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted by crisbeis
I topped up with about ten gallons the other day and the green handle was pumping gas. The fuel supplier put premium in the diesel and diesel in the premium at the gas station. Five miles later I lost power and limped home for about a mile. When I shut her down, blue smoke kept coming out for 10 to 20 seconds.The supplier towed my truck to a diesel shop. The shop stated that they drained and filled the tank, replaced fuel filter, and added an additive. They said there was most likely a problem in the fuel system not related to little if any gas in the tank. When it was returned I started it and profuse white smoke was coming out. The engine ran rough, seemed like it was missing bad, and even blew white smoke rings out the exhaust! So now what? I'm thinking about having the injectors and injection pump inspected and rebuilt if necessary. Replace lift pump, fuel filter, clean all lines, compression test and bore scope the cylinders. Could the gas have caused this? Am I missing something? Am I overdoing it? I'm kind of freaking out because I like my truck. FWIW she has 275k miles on her and ran perfect until I fueled up. Great first post huh?
Did the fuel station fess up to the fuel mix up? Obviously, good business practice says that the station should cover your damages, then they can go after, subrogate is the insurance industry term, the fuel supplier. In Az the small claims max is 5k dollars, which would probably cover the damages...Mark
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 09:38 AM
  #4  
Angry Johnny's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 939
Likes: 264
From: Looneyville, West Virginia
I would first contact the supplier and let them know your truck is not fixed and they should cover whatever other repairs it needs to return it to the state it was before the gasoline was added. Don't take no for an answer, if need be consult a lawyer.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 12:24 PM
  #5  
crisbeis's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Seaside, Oregon
Like my receipt and what the clerk wrote on it?


Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 12:43 PM
  #6  
crisbeis's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Seaside, Oregon
The suppliers general operations manager basically said that it is a problem with the truck and not the fuel and that I should file a claim with my insurance company. I do not carry full coverage on this vehicle so that is not an option for me. He also told me that the truck was returned to the condition it was in before it was fueled which is not true. I contacted my attorney and he said that this should go to small claims court. Oregon's max amount for small claims is $10,000. I am going to send the IP and the injectors to a fuel injection shop to see if they can provide an opinion as to if these were damaged by gasoline. If they say gasoline was the cause it's off to court we go....I hope that I am not missing something.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 01:41 PM
  #7  
Angry Johnny's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 939
Likes: 264
From: Looneyville, West Virginia
Sucks but sounds like you are doing the right thing.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 01:42 PM
  #8  
maybe368's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,311
Likes: 566
From: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted by crisbeis
The suppliers general operations manager basically said that it is a problem with the truck and not the fuel and that I should file a claim with my insurance company. I do not carry full coverage on this vehicle so that is not an option for me. He also told me that the truck was returned to the condition it was in before it was fueled which is not true. I contacted my attorney and he said that this should go to small claims court. Oregon's max amount for small claims is $10,000. I am going to send the IP and the injectors to a fuel injection shop to see if they can provide an opinion as to if these were damaged by gasoline. If they say gasoline was the cause it's off to court we go....I hope that I am not missing something.
Hang on to that receipt, it is legal gold. What I would do is file a small claims case and list the gas station, the fuel delivery people and the fuel supplier as respondents. The innocents will be filtered out in the course of the case. The really good thing about small claims court is that lawyers aren't allowed, at least in Az...Mark
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2018 | 06:39 PM
  #9  
crisbeis's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Seaside, Oregon
Thanks for all of the responses. I'll tear into this thing on Sunday and maybe it will shed some light as to what is going on with the truck. Who knows where it will go from there. I'll update when I know more.... Chris
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Copenhagenjunkie
4th Gen Engine and Drivetrain-2010 and Up
15
Sep 4, 2010 09:25 AM
travelingman
24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
6
Jan 25, 2010 08:29 AM
apprentice
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
39
May 17, 2008 07:47 PM
masterphreak
General Diesel Discussion
17
Jul 28, 2007 02:48 PM
BlackSheep5
Fuels / BioDiesel / Diesel Prices
7
Nov 27, 2006 07:52 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 PM.