Adding Hydro Boost to my 96
04-18-2004, 01:10 PM
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Boner- your 96, if a 2500, should have stock 24 mm wheel cylinders on it. I have never done this on a 2wd, but on 4x4's I upgrade the wheel cylinders to 27 mm units from a ram 3500. With these cyls. the brakes are biased a lot more to the rear. I don't know if I would go to anything bigger.
04-19-2004, 10:12 PM
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Holy Cow! That's a big difference from stock. Might have to try that sometimes. Do you find the rear antilock engages a lot when stopping with those?
04-20-2004, 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by torquefan
Holy Cow! That's a big difference from stock. Might have to try that sometimes. Do you find the rear antilock engages a lot when stopping with those?
Holy Cow! That's a big difference from stock. Might have to try that sometimes. Do you find the rear antilock engages a lot when stopping with those?
04-21-2004, 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by infidel
Ray, because the Chevy cylinders are even bigger than the Dodge 3500 ones.
I have a table somewhere that equates cylinder diameter x pressure = force, just a few hundredths inch larger multiplies out too several hundred pounds more braking force.
Ray, because the Chevy cylinders are even bigger than the Dodge 3500 ones.
I have a table somewhere that equates cylinder diameter x pressure = force, just a few hundredths inch larger multiplies out too several hundred pounds more braking force.
05-15-2004, 03:41 PM
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The chevy cylinders have 56.25% more area (meaning more force on the shoes for the same pressure in the brake line) than the older cylinders of the 2500.
The stock 3500 cylinders have 26.56% more area than the older 2500s.
And the chevy cylinders have 23.45% more area than the stock 3500 cylinders.
The relation is the area of the piston x pressure. Pounds per square inch x square inch = pounds.
For a circle it's r x r x pi for the area.
Just flinging in my 2c
AlpineRAM
The stock 3500 cylinders have 26.56% more area than the older 2500s.
And the chevy cylinders have 23.45% more area than the stock 3500 cylinders.
The relation is the area of the piston x pressure. Pounds per square inch x square inch = pounds.
For a circle it's r x r x pi for the area.
Just flinging in my 2c
AlpineRAM
05-15-2004, 08:52 PM
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Alpine, I assumed a hydraulic force of 500 psi and came out with this. Not sure what the units are or if my calculation is even correct as I mixed mm with psi.
2500 - 24mm=22k (lbs per cylinder force?)
3500 - 27mm=28k
GMC - 30mm=35k
Even if the number I came up with isn't a true unit of measurement it still shows the increase in braking force as the wheel cylinder size increases.
2500 - 24mm=22k (lbs per cylinder force?)
3500 - 27mm=28k
GMC - 30mm=35k
Even if the number I came up with isn't a true unit of measurement it still shows the increase in braking force as the wheel cylinder size increases.
05-16-2004, 02:00 AM
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For 500 psi the cylinder of an
2500 will act with a force of 350,6pounds on each piston.
3500 with 443,72 pounds per piston
GMC with 547.8 pounds per piston.
AlpineRAM
2500 will act with a force of 350,6pounds on each piston.
3500 with 443,72 pounds per piston
GMC with 547.8 pounds per piston.
AlpineRAM
12-05-2004, 03:49 PM
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I would like to say thanks to you guys. Not to blow smoke, but give credit where its due. I was poking around to see if I could improve my braking on the 3500. Found it!, with part numbers no less. At that price I am going to do the Chevy upgrade. Infidel, others and DTR Thanks ! I sold my 02 for my 97, the brakes on the 02 that had 4 wheel discs and anti-locks on all four was fantatstic. The 97 is just OK but have to push the pedal alot harder. This should help. 
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