Glad to be of some help, I just wish someone would have pointed out the useless payload capacity of the dodge 2500 diesel back in 2000 before I bought it. Mind you a single wheel 3500 was not available from Dodge back then and a dually was out of the question.

 

That GVWR can be a real downer with several of the trucks that Dodge makes.
My Mega cab 3500 dually is rated for only 10500 lbs. Yet the quad cab is rated for 12200 lbs. Thats a 4x4 dually.
Then you put passengers, aux fuel tank and all your other personal stuff and that margin gets real small.

I did figure out a few ways to alter the weight in the bed. The height of the 5th wheel can move a little bit of the weight back to the trailer. Triple axle trailers can help out if there is no generator in the front storage...etc etc.

Even how the trailer sits and where the axles are positioned on the trailer can make two identical weight 5ers vary over 1000 lbs of pin weight. Been there done that and saw how it effects the truck. I hooked up to one 5er that was actually lighter then another but it exceeded my trucks weight limit because it was REAL heavy on the front end of the trailer. Even my air bags allowed me to pivot a small amount of weight back to the trailer.

Clear as mud perhaps. But I think you get the idea of what can happen.

Scotty

 

Well the only thing I use the bed of my truck for is a quad most times( no trailor ). I'm planning on a 5er toy hauler, so I'll have to watch the weight real close and load the tail end with the heavy stuff. Why did Dodge make these trucks so powerful (6.7 diesel ) with so little carrying cap.

Will I need air bag's to level out truck and trailor if I'm near my 2000lbs max pin weight ?

 

Sorry I didn't get back to you to answer your question. I have been buried.

Actually Dodge did not make these trucks with so little carrying capacity when all the chips are down. In 2003, it had the highest of big three on the 1 ton. Since then Ford has come along with some suspension upgrades to increase the ability to carry weight in the bed. Likewise, Dodge has now come up some. But, that still does not help the 2500. You may need some bags under it when you see how it does. You could also check into Timbrels. Many guys ignore the ratings, put on overload springs and run with the big boys regardless of what the ratings say. To each his own.

Bob

 

And if you see a white dually pulling a Carriage 5th wheel and the driver is smiling...its probably Bob...in his speedo.

 

Oh sure - - ya big galloot. Squeal on me. See if I let you know anything anymore. You were not supposed to let them know I where my speedo when in Canada in the winter. Yeh - - sure.

ModestBob

 

Well I'm not a happy camper, Every 5er I look at has a pin weight of just about 2k. But I'm not sure if thats when its loaded at its GVW or not.
Example I have the weights of a 34ft toy hauler
GVW 12140
empty 7880
Hitch 1980

These are the weights given to me by the mfg. Do they mean that 1980 pin weight is when fully loaded to the max 12140 ? It would seem to me that all depends on the way you load the hauler ?

I'm really getting tired of using my 6 x 12 enclosed cargo trailor for a camping trailor.

 

Navy, personally I wouldn't worry so much about what the "ratings" are the dodge puts on the truck. Dodge under rates it for their own liability reasons to point fingers at you in case of an accident or something.

The trucks will hold much more weight and tow much more weight than the "rating".

In my opinion, where you need to be concerned is the tire ratings and try not to go over that. If the tires are rated at say 3200lbs, then you have roughly a 6000-6400 lb rear tire capacity. The rear axle on your truck unloaded is probably in the 3000lb area.......so you should be able to hook up to a 3000lb or less tongue weight trailer and be fairly comfortable. Air bags will help if it feels a little low in the springs.

I regularly tow a 1800lb tongue weight toyhauler while hauling a 600 lb quad in the bed of the truck too. With fuel and other gear, im sure im at 3000lbs or so of tongue weight and cargo weight.......in addition to my truck's 8000lb weight. That would put me about 11,000 lbs or so of GVW on my rating of 9900lbs. But my tires (all 4) are rated at over 12,000lbs and the truck and tires handle that weight very comfortably.

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