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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Looking to install a 5th wheel hitch and the kits that you use to install the rails say for trucks without "OVERLOAD SPRINGS" How do I know what I have for springs ? There is 1 spring ( the lowest spring) that sticks straight out from the u-bolts and is about 1/2 " thick, is that the over load spring ?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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I know nothing about the new trucks but i know that most overloads are on top with two brackets that bolt up to thje frame that the spring hits when loaded. not sure if they have changed anything with the new truck.
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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From what I´ve read those overload springs are installed on the 3500 Ram models. And not on the 2500 models. Which might be one of a few differences between the 2500 and 3500. Maybe the only one? Let the expert chime in on this one though. If that 5er hitch is for trucks without overload springs, then I´m pretty sure it will fit. How much pin weight does your 5er have? You might need airbags to level the ride if it´s too heavy.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 02:29 AM
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i had a 2004 2500 and pulled a 38ft fifth wheel with no problem at all as lon g as your in your weight limits you should have no problem
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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Gordy, - - - I sure recommend using a slider hitch with the short bed. You WILL forget sometime and regret not having it. Watch your pinweight - - that is the weak link in the 2500.

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Watch the tire ratings as well. I went thru 2 sets of tires and was on my 3rd when I got rid of the MegaCab. Overloaded the tires and the sidewalls were cracking w/ white cords showing thru. Plenty of tread depth left.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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I would second the automatic sliding hitch recommendation. It is nice to not worry about hitting the truck when backing or when you have to make a sharp turn. Well worth the extra $.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Gordy, - - - I sure recommend using a slider hitch with the short bed. You WILL forget sometime and regret not having it. Watch your pinweight - - that is the weak link in the 2500.

Bob
Thanks for the input Bob and the rest of you.

I just picked up my 5th wheel hitch today, Reese 16K, 4K pin on round tube slider that I beleive to be a 20K slider, also got the rails all for $500. its like new. Now to get the NO-DRILL mounting kit.

Are the bedrails physically all the the same when it comes to the mounting holes in them or does each company have their own spacing. ??

Bob when you say Pinweight is the leak link on the 2500 what exactly do you mean? thanks again

gordy

Last edited by Navy7797; Apr 12, 2010 at 08:57 PM. Reason: another question
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Pinweight is the leak link on the 2500 what exactly do you mean? gordy
The amount of weight that the diesel 2500 can legally carry is very small as the truck weighs so much. For example if the truck weighs 7400 lbs and the GVWR is 8800lbs then all that's left for passengers, fuel, hitch and the amount of weight the 5ver transfers to the truck is just 1400lbs.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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from the experience that i have 2500's do not have over load springs only 3500's do, also another difference between 2500 and 3500's is the 3500 has a heavier duty frame. if you were to install overloads on a 2500 you would have a heavy 3/4 ton.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MyFirstRide
from the experience that i have 2500's do not have over load springs only 3500's do, also another difference between 2500 and 3500's is the 3500 has a heavier duty frame. if you were to install overloads on a 2500 you would have a heavy 3/4 ton.
I am sorry but you are incorrect.
The 2500 and 3500 SRW trucks share the same drive train, frame and tires. The only difference is one leaf spring in the spring package on the rear axle.

Per Dodge website: http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/2009/intro.pdf, the maximum trailer weight is 12,800 LBS for a 2500 HD truck.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim W
The only difference is one leaf spring in the spring package on the rear axle.

Per Dodge website: http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/2009/intro.pdf, the maximum trailer weight is 12,800 LBS for a 2500 HD truck.
There are two other differences One is the 2500/3500 door badge that advertises it's a 2500, the other most importantly is the sticker on the door jamb that states the GVWR. You can change everything else but the sticker.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Navy7797
Thanks for the input Bob and the rest of you.

I just picked up my 5th wheel hitch today, Reese 16K, 4K pin on round tube slider that I beleive to be a 20K slider, also got the rails all for $500. its like new. Now to get the NO-DRILL mounting kit.

Are the bedrails physically all the the same when it comes to the mounting holes in them or does each company have their own spacing. ??

Bob when you say Pinweight is the leak link on the 2500 what exactly do you mean? thanks again , I assume you mean load carring cap.

gordy
Can anybody answer my questions (2) or are we just wanting to argue over whats what? Thanks guys !
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Can anybody answer my questions (2) or are we just wanting to argue over whats what? Thanks guys !
Navy if you read post #9 I believe that was one of your questions.

As for clamp type hitches I have NO experience as I've always drilled and bolted mine on. However I can tell you that Ford is different from GM and they are both different from Dodge, at least on the older trucks. I have no experience on the newer stuff. However I have moved the same hitch from all three manufactures trucks over the years.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Thanks Busboy

Originally Posted by Busboy
Navy if you read post #9 I believe that was one of your questions.

As for clamp type hitches I have NO experience as I've always drilled and bolted mine on. However I can tell you that Ford is different from GM and they are both different from Dodge, at least on the older trucks. I have no experience on the newer stuff. However I have moved the same hitch from all three manufactures trucks over the years.
Hey thanks for your input, after rereading # 9 it sank into my thick shull what your saying. My truck has GVWR of 9000 lbs. So that leaves me with 2080 lbs of payload, VERY Weak if you ask me. Now I see what FIVERBOB was saying.
Thanks again to all that input here.

gordy
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