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1998 Dodge 2500 Cummins Trailer Connector Battery Terminal

Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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1998 Dodge 2500 Cummins Trailer Connector Battery Terminal

I have a 1998 2500 with a towing package, which includes the factory trailer connector. When I plug my trailer in, everything works except there doesn't seem to be power going to the trailer battery charging terminal.

When I check the terminal with a voltmeter, (trailer not connected) I get about 1-2 volts with the engine either running or off. I recently took a 1200 mile trip, and don't believe the trailer battery was charged at all.

Any help and guidance would be appreciated.

Dan
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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You should be getting a constant 12 volts at the auxiliary power terminal, key on or off. 1 o:clock on the female. Check for a blown fuse link on the line up by the battery. Or just disconnect that line and rewire a direct line to the plug using a 15-25 amp fuse. Your trailer will only pull a couple amps unless discharged, I bet you weren't charging at all.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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The factory 12V supply wiring is made to keep an emergency brake battery, (very small) charged. It is totally inadequate to charge the batteries in a fiver. If they were down even a little, and you plugged it in, it probably blew the fuse, as it should.

Check the trailer cable on the fiver. If it is 14/7, use a 15 or 20 amp circuit breaker in a 10 or 12 g wire to the power pin. Also check the fiver internally. Many of them don't have any fuse between the battery and the trailer connector. A short in the trailer connector typically burns down the fiver.

There's a thread on this site about a man that bought a fiver with a dead battery, and 100 miles toward home both the fiver and the truck caught fire and burnded down. I believe someone just put a heavier fuse, or maybe a no-blow in the trailer supply wire, and the fiver, as is typical had no fuse and a 14 g trailer lead.

My trailer feed is 6 gauge, through a 40 amp fuse. Trailer wiring is 8 gauge, except 10 G in the rubber cord. I added a 40 amp fuse to the circuit in the trailer.

It's also run through a relay that is driven by the heater and window auxiliary circuit. It is cpowered when key is in the run position, and no other time.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Thanks for the info Whiskers. I thought it was supposed to be a constant 12v on or off, but I wasn't sure.

Any idea what color wire it might be up front?

Is it part of the circuit that is marked 'trailer' with a 40 amp fuse in the box under the hood?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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j_martin - I just have a small 20ft trailer with one deep cycle battery. The battery charged fine with my old tow rig, and I did check the trailer wiring, so I know the trailer wiring is fine.

I actually checked the truck wiring right after I got it before I even plugged in my trailer, so I'm just trying to see how the truck is supposed to be wired.

Thanks for the input!
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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I hooked a trailer up to my truck for the first time since I bought it, last week. The PO broke the cover off the plug on the truck! So things were a lot dirty and corroded. I applied electrical contact cleaner liberally. Trailer lights were behaving strangely. I looked at rear of truck and there was smoke coming out of the plug / connector. That was enough for me. I bought a swanky new truck end plug for $10. When I pulled the old plug out of the truck the wires were black and a couple of the lugs were rusted. How does that happen to copper? I cut all the wires back to clean copper and installed the new plug. $10 and an hour worth of my labor and all is good.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tallguy67
I hooked a trailer up to my truck for the first time since I bought it, last week. The PO broke the cover off the plug on the truck! So things were a lot dirty and corroded. I applied electrical contact cleaner liberally. Trailer lights were behaving strangely. I looked at rear of truck and there was smoke coming out of the plug / connector. That was enough for me. I bought a swanky new truck end plug for $10. When I pulled the old plug out of the truck the wires were black and a couple of the lugs were rusted. How does that happen to copper? I cut all the wires back to clean copper and installed the new plug. $10 and an hour worth of my labor and all is good.
Copper and salt makes a black oxide that is neither conductive nor solderable.

The lug screws and clips in an RV connector are usually iron.

dpwilkie..... 40 amp circuit should have a minimum 8 gauge wire to work right, 10 g to prevent automatic flames. Somehow, after working on an older Dodge Ram pickup for awhile, I doubt the factory wire is that heavy. Just be sure it's suitable before you burn it down.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Sounds like you have an IPM. Could be a bad relay in it. Likely, power would be turned on to the trailer only when the engine is running, maybe even rotation required and seen by the PCM.
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