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Quad Adrenaline Beta Testing....

Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Big blue just curious how your holley blue holds up to the adrenaline and jammer 5's
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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I soldered the resister back on. I used a solder sucker to remove the broken off leg, and then re-soldered both legs so that the resistor now sits on the board. Is this going to be okay without much of a air gap, for heat dissipation?

I took it for a drive, and I now have fueling back! It was to slick out tonight to do much testing, but it will at least hit 55psi, without going full throttle. Spool up is quick again, without out a sign of a miss.

I do still have a surge. It still happens on all levels with PL01 being easier to drive around it. I can actually drive around the surge now, but I have to be careful or it will really get in a surge condition. One thing of note, is I did a power brake and build boost to 15 psi for about 10 seconds. After that the surge was reduced. Possible because of a change in IAT? The best way I can describe the surge, is a chip in surge. If I am cruising with a light throttle, this file won't surge, but if I go to accelerate then the surging starts. If I accelerate hard enough where I can fuel the "wire tap" fuel, the surge stops.

It was 18* out tonight when I was testing, and I am using the file on the web site. I have to wonder how it would work at 50*...

Keep up the good work.

Paul
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Holley Blue is running strong, never below 10 psi WOT from 0 to 90 with everything set to kill. I honestly don't think a VP-44 can pump more fuel than a Holley Blue with a 1/2" line kit mounted down by the tank.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
So does it surge anywhere? I know you said it is ALMOST eliminated which leads me to believe it might still be doing it? If you can tell me where it is I can probably fix it for good.

We are checking some stuff right now on the warm up mode. I think it might have a bug in it which is probably causing some other significant stuff happening.

If I can eliminate the surging for good which it sounds like I have or almost have then I only have to really worry about the TT issue we have with a few trucks and I may have that fixed already! I am ready for a BEER!

The tune I sent out via email to a few people has a pretty rough map in it for timing. I am working on real map that I would really want to run, it is not so off and on. I just did not want to spend hours on it if that was not even the problem! So if I can get that wrapped up tonight we can have it up on the web in the morning.

Also, do you think that latest tune is stronger? I have had several people tell me they believe it is quite a bit more responsive on the bottom.
I just walked in the house and the only surging I have now during normal driving is 1400-1700 under light acceleration or when attempting to maintain speed without the cruise (It feels like I am on a rough road and my foot is bouncing on the accelerator). I don't know that the Adrenaline is causing this as I can set the cruise in this same range and I have ZERO surging. Maybe the box is just amplifying a sensitive APPS or something else that I can't feel without it. To test this I set the cruise at 40 mph in 6th gear which is around 1100 rpm, and had no surging from there all the way up if I accelerated using the cruise. I then attempted this without the cruise using very light throttle to accelerate and the surge is bad below 1400 rpm and noticeable to about 1800.

This tuning file does feel stronger and more responsive than the file currently available on the web site.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
...Also, do you think that latest tune is stronger? I have had several people tell me they believe it is quite a bit more responsive on the bottom.
I thought I noticed this also... but did not mention it because we had our coldest morning of the year when I tested and thought the additional boost at WOT on PL02 (+5 psi) was possibly just denser air??

I'm doing a lot of my testing on PL02 because it's easier/quicker....and I assume if results are there on #2, the higher levels will fall in line.
Final, all-out testing gets saved for the track, since last yrs 115 mph speeding ticket while testing my new Mach 6's.

RJ
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RowJ
I'm doing a lot of my testing on PL02 because it's easier/quicker....and I assume if results are there on #2, the higher levels will fall in line.
Final, all-out testing gets saved for the track, since last yrs 115 mph speeding ticket while testing my new Mach 6's.

RJ
What kinda beta tester are you? PL02?
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Ouch, 115mph speeding ticket, that must of been an expensive one!!!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lkuykendall
..... I don't know that the Adrenaline is causing this (surging) as I can set the cruise in this same range and I have ZERO surge.
Very Interesting! Problem could just be my size 13 boots?? . Not trying to be a wise guy... but this doesn't explain why other boxes don't act the same?

Originally Posted by J Lent
What kinda beta tester are you? PL02?
The kind that would have gone to jail if state trooper didn't accept my 'data gathering' story. And my pen & paper with boost/rpm's/power settings written on it. He lowered the ticket to 100 mph! Above 100, around here, it's Go to Jail....do not collect $200.00!

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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RowJ

The kind that would have gone to jail if state trooper didn't accept my 'data gathering' story and my pen & paper with boost/rpm's/power settings written on it. He lowered the ticket to 100 mph! Above 100, around here, it's Go to Jail....do not collect $200.00!

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I was joking, I totally understand. Out here my uncle is the law.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Thank the lord "Mr. Beta Tester"!!! I wonder if that will work here..
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by paulb
I soldered the resister back on. I used a solder sucker to remove the broken off leg, and then re-soldered both legs so that the resistor now sits on the board. Is this going to be okay without much of a air gap, for heat dissipation?

I took it for a drive, and I now have fueling back! It was to slick out tonight to do much testing, but it will at least hit 55psi, without going full throttle. Spool up is quick again, without out a sign of a miss.

I do still have a surge. It still happens on all levels with PL01 being easier to drive around it. I can actually drive around the surge now, but I have to be careful or it will really get in a surge condition. One thing of note, is I did a power brake and build boost to 15 psi for about 10 seconds. After that the surge was reduced. Possible because of a change in IAT? The best way I can describe the surge, is a chip in surge. If I am cruising with a light throttle, this file won't surge, but if I go to accelerate then the surging starts. If I accelerate hard enough where I can fuel the "wire tap" fuel, the surge stops.

It was 18* out tonight when I was testing, and I am using the file on the web site. I have to wonder how it would work at 50*...

Keep up the good work.

Paul
Now that it is working, I will send you some software to stop the surge. So far everyone that has it really likes it!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RowJ
Not trying to be a wise guy... but this doesn't explain why other boxes don't act the same?

Well, most or all the other boxes are waiting for boost. So at light throttle they are not really respomsive. That is the only real problem with waiting for boost is that it is laggy.

The way we are doing this you should have instant throttle repsonse. The downside might be that you need to keep the pedal still!!
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Um... any more pictures of stacks????
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
.The way we are doing this you should have instant throttle repsonse. The downside might be that you need to keep the pedal still!!
AH! Great Point.
Glad I posted my thoughts(almost didn't).
Thanks!

RJ
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
Now that it is working, I will send you some software to stop the surge. So far everyone that has it really likes it!
Do you need my email address again? I'm looking forward to not having the surge.

Paul
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