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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Looking for a Product Engineering Fuel Pump

Okay, now that I have figured out what brand of fuel pump I have on my truck, it's not a Carter. I am looking for a brand name "Product Engineering" and the model number is PE 4200. This has been a great lift pump that no matter what mods and loads I was pulling never dropped more than 2 pounds at WOT. But Alas, at over 100,000 on it, it is dead and I want another. Anybody know where to find one?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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I found their web page, but I couldn't find that model pump. Do you remember what the flow specs were on it?

http://productengr.com/products.htm
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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luckily you waited the PE 4200 does not work well with diesel fuel, don't waste your hard earned bucks.


consider an aftermarket cam with mechanical lift pump lobe
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wagner
luckily you waited the PE 4200 does not work well with diesel fuel, don't waste your hard earned bucks.


consider an aftermarket cam with mechanical lift pump lobe
I am sure a lot of people would happy to replace a lift pump once every 100k miles It doesn't say on their website if they work well with diesel, but if 99 cummins can get one to last 100k miles then they must not be too bad. Plus they have a 2 year parts and labor warranty. I am not saying that it is better than a mechanical fuel pump, but the cost is a lot less for people that wont put 400k miles on their truck.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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go for it don't ay you were not warned
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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ask around before you buy
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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I went through 3 PE4200's in about 10k on my old 01. Fancy pump but it sure doesnt like diesel.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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When it comes to diesel transfer pumps if it's electric it will fail, it's just a matter of time. IMHO Mechanical is the only way to go.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OPIE
When it comes to diesel transfer pumps if it's electric it will fail, it's just a matter of time. IMHO Mechanical is the only way to go.
I agree 100%. Any electric fuel pump will fail over time. But the initial cost of buying the cam and mechanical fuel pump is enough to buy probably 10 Carter or Holley electric fuel pumps. Some of us can't afford to go that route, but almost all of us want to.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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The flow specs listed on the tag of my 4200 are 16-19PSI at a 100GPH. Gonna call them and find out the details and see if they can just rebuild the one I have.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Called and talked to John the Company owner and got the info I was looking for. To rebuild and update my current pump is $150 and a new pump is $299 with an unlimited mileage 2 year parts and labor warranty. The 4200 is not advertised because it is specifically designed for these Dodge trucks and this is not his focus. He says his advertising is based on the race industry.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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I have a new one in the box that I'm not using. I had it as a spare but never ended up using it. PM me if you're interested.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Did not last?

Did not last all that long after your trans state road trip I take it?

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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Had a few problems off and on during the road trip with it, you could really tell it was gettin weak, but now it's dead. It was good that it went down with a fight though and not just quite on me.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oestreich84
I agree 100%. Any electric fuel pump will fail over time. But the initial cost of buying the cam and mechanical fuel pump is enough to buy probably 10 Carter or Holley electric fuel pumps. Some of us can't afford to go that route, but almost all of us want to.
I understand your point, and really don't know how much a cam driven combo costs. I do know that a Carter now costs $100.
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul....asp&x=44&y=11

I do know there is a company focusing on coming out with the best system right now a complete system would run under 8 times what the Carter costs. Not to mention, everytime I ran with bigger injectors I could take a Carter out just with one pass down the quarter mile. But then again I am sure that Carter has updated their product since two years ago. (Right) I would be very surprised if any of the electric pumps would last 100k in a 350+hp truck without having to use a warrantee numerous times.
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