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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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my 2001 dodge truck died i think its injection pump.i just put one in about a year and half ago. i had good fuel press 16 psi. i allso run 2cycl mix with fuel . i turned the key on and off three times and the code came up P DONE .
i was also wondering can the edge/attd make the pump go bad too

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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the edge could affect your pump badly only if you let it... you starve it which is very possible... simple math... fuel pump pushes x, injection pump pumps x, edge goes in, now fuel pump pushes x and when your rollin the black the injection pump tries to pump x2

the edge dont make the pump go bad, it allows you to make it go bad
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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P DONE is not a code. I believe that means that the computer has no codes stored. Did you reciently have any dead pedal symptoms?
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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yeah the P done shows up after it cycles through to read codes tells you that is finished, what symptoms make you think the VP is going bad?
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Pump can die...but I'd test to ensure you have fuel pressure, and pull codes with a scanner, first, seems odd you'd get a no start without the failed codes

http://www.bluechipdiesel.com/vp44diagnostichelp.html

what about being out of fuel?, would not be the first time the fuel gauge says 1/4-1/2 full and your actually empty
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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well the truck just died going down the freeway i was not driving girlfreind was she said it just spuderd then died but was low on fuel when it happened light was on i put in a bd lift pump i guess i didnt cut that hose long enuff puzzled
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Use a scanner - the key on/off thing is a waste of time.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Sound s like it just needs to be bled, crack the banjo bolt at the VP, "bump" the starter the lift pump should cycle for 15-20seconds bleeding out the air, tighten the fitting once you have steady stream of fuel.

then crack 2 of the first 3 injectors, crank engine over, you should have fuel leaking out, you might even have the truck start to fire. stop tighten lines and attempt to start again...this usually gets all the air and it should start
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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I see Nick posted how to bleed the air off while I was getting this together,
I'll leave this in case it's needed.

If it was run out of fuel then the entire fuel system must be re-primed with fuel and all the air removed...this is kinda involved.
First after getting the truck home, start charging the batteries because they're probably run down and you're going to need for them to be fully charged to keep from burning up the starter motor.

Now go buy 10 gallons of fuel and put it in the fuel tank.

After the batteries are charged, disconnect the charger.
Take the line from your fuel pressure gauge loose and place a bucket or jug under it to observe and catch fuel.
Turn the keyswitch on just enough to "bump" the starter then quickly release...this gets you The Free 25 Second Lift Pump Run. During this event, check the fuel going into your bucket or jug. We need clear fuel with no air before going to the next step...repeat as necessary.
After getting clear fuel, reconnect your pressure gauge.
Take the cap off the Schrader Valve on the line from the fuel filter to the injector pump and during yet another Free 25 Second Lift Pump Run, depress the valve core of the Schrader valve to release any air left in the fuel lines. This will spray so cover it with a big rag to keep from making a big mess unless you happen to have a fuel pressure check kit, then connect the line fitting to the schrader valve, set the other end of the test kit line in a catch jug then bump the starter.
After determining you have clear fuel to the injector pump, loosen #1, #3, #4 & #5 injector fittings with a 19mm wrench.
Do the Free 25 Second Lift Pump Run until you see normal lift pump fuel pressure then 3 more times to try to push as much air as you can out of the injector pump.
Now be sure both batteries are full charged.
Try to start the engine for 5 seconds.
Check the injector fittings and tighten any wet ones.
Try to start the engine again for another 5 seconds then check again for wet injector fittings & tighten the wet ones.
Do this until the engine starts kicking-trying to start then tighten any loose injector fittings and start the engine.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Wouldn't be the first time a truck ran out of fuel because of a faulty sender. Definitely need to add 10 gallons of diesel in that case though as five is not always enough. If you have fuel pressure at the VP44 try bleeding the injector lines. Hope for your sake it's not the VP44; although they can fail without warning...
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