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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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I don't think Hankpac really meant that as a putdown, either.

No fortune 500 company has their ivory tower headquarters here in our neck of the woods, there are no high paying aluminum plant jobs, or that many other high paying industrial type jobs. For the area I'd guess you are doing better than average.

I'd look at more than the hourly rate, specifically take a good look at medical and retirement benefits. If neither position offers a benefit package, I'd make finding something that does a future goal.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Both have insurance and and some kind of a retirement. The new older job I am going to has a HSA witch is a health savings account that the store and my self can put money in to for my medical stuff and dental and vision while it has a high deductible say when I turn 65 there is 50k in there I can start drawing it out as a retirement or keep going with putting money in there. It goes with me were ever I go and I also have a alack plan that goes with me were ever I go also.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I understand Hankpac's message, but the delivery was terrible! He has seen the same red flag I do -- you are being made a promotion promise from the present owner, for a position created by the next one? All kinds of bad vibes there! I have been there, and work with a guy who had that same offer made to him -- promotion to a store manager position, then summarily fired by the new owner of the chain who setup regional managers. If my friend had stayed as a regular shop hand, he would have kept his good, high wage job, but wound up losing a salary position in an instant. It builds character, but shakes up your financial world in a heartbeat!!

I am currently in a job I dislike very much, having left a good job with a rocky future for this job and more money. I make sure that I kick myself in the posterior every morning for uprooting my family and taking this job based on the lure of more money and other campaign promises. I have lost several thousand dollars, as my house still hasn't sold where I relocated from, and I am paying rent/mortgage, taxes, plus utilities in two places for about a year now. I just don't really know which way to go, now -- take my chances on another job I need to track down, or ride this one for a while more to see if I can improve it!?!?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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I guess I might have been off a tilt too a little its the old owner dealing with the new owner and transfering information too me from her. She wants to stay low on the radar tell the sale is final I and the boss are the only ones who know who it is. On the flip side if the sale dont go though I still have a job with them making 13 and hour and more hours and 3 dollars more than I am currently working now. I have to do somthing even if it means goin back I am goin back for two reasons the money and they have been loyal and good to me since I started with them in high school and I will always be loyal to them since they have never done me wrong. I just cant keep tryin to make 20 bucks lasat for two weeks and the sad part is for my age I have maybe 4 bills a month an i can barely cover them
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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I am changing careers too. I am moving from a $15 to a $10 an hour. My current job stresses the back too much (I am a wallyworld oderfiller), hours are goofy (4am to 2pm, tues-fri), and all they care about is getting the work load done. Today they added 2 routes from second shift to ours!!!!! They have been doing this for the past 4 weeks. I really shouldn't be complaining BUT the guys on second dont get the hours we do. So I am trading the money in for a mechanic position at a food factory. Hour are more reasonable AND garrunteed 40 hours instead of 30-35 hours.

Just sharing my story.

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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hang in there i know "big money job" in dufur area can't be two plentiful . brother lives in central oregon and get about the same for his work. don't burn bridges either in a small town it can bite you big time. that is part of the trade off not living in portland area with all the jerks and wanna bee's. if i see one more Mcmansion i going to puke. if you have ins. your doing better than most . cost of living can't be to bad.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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I drive into the dalles for work and not burning bridges with my old employers is why they are willing to give me a four dollar raise just to come back because they need a person who can run the store.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgeCowboy
not burning bridges with my old employers is why they are willing to give me a four dollar raise just to come back
This is what too few people realize. As a manager I've seen all too many people burn their bridges. In this world burning bridges is quite possibly the worst thing you can do career-wise.

You never know when those former employers can come in handy again!
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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whoa.
I meant no insult big guy. Blue collar work put me through college, and led to an early retirement.
My intent was that you should be careful of blue sky promises, that a change in management could change EVERYTHING, and promises made to you by the previous management, unless in writing, mean nothing to the new owner.

An example. I was hired to run an outreach clinic by a county hospital. the County sold the management of the hospital to a private management company. All county employees were now supposed to be automatically employees of the new management company. that is what they told everyone so they wouldn't bolt for safer ground. The new management got there, and said, everyone is going to interview for the jobs they now hold, and re-negotiate their wages.
For most of the folks there, they had no pace else to go, no alternatives, they really needed that job. It was a crushing blow to all of them, except the few professionals, like myself, who could get a job in another area of the state in half an hour. The anesthatist, the Surgeon, myself, and two lab techs, all left immediately for better jobs.
You asked for advise. I suggested that neither job sounded that critical to your future unlesss you jumped for the wrong reasons, or without the needed safety measures. Somebody else already posted that your employer isn't in love with you.
Good luck in your job search.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 06:00 AM
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Hey, I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering how it worked out?

I'd been kind of browsing what is available in the area...

I think security companies are hiring both at Google, and at the Dam. As I understand it they start around $16, but you have to buy in for insurance.

I was also talking to a buddy who is getting into service work for windmills. Sounds like they start at around $20 w/good medical. He didn't have any formal training, but apparently tested OK. Mostly it sounded like torquing bolts to make sure nothing loosened up, and greasing/inspecting things. Getting through the windmill program at the community college would apparently up the wage from there. Naturally, it involves working at high heights, and I guess those towers get super cold in the winter and very hot in the summer.

I think I also saw a warehouse supervisor thing open at DaKine. Lastly, I think the county has an opening for parole and probation officer, though most of those folks likely have a degree.
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