Vintage Empire

So I drove to Utah from San Diego on Sunday, truck ran perfect the whole way, no problems at all. I parked it Sunday night and didn't drive (or try to drive) it till today (wed). Now the temps here (Utah) have been in the single digits in the day, and - at night (I'm thinking that these temps have something to do with the truck not starting). So I go to start the truck today and it takes awhile (alot longer than usual) for the "wait to start" light to go off, it finaly does and I turn the key and it starts, runs real rough for about 10 seconds, then dies. I try it again and it just cranks and cranks but will not turn over. I tried to jump start it but to no avail.

Any help, suggestions would be very helpful.
The truck is a '99 2500, AUTO, 2 wheel drive, 24 valve with 205k miles on it.

Bob Wagner

could be jelled fuel.

Copenhagenjunkie

Did you happen to fuel up in Utah before you shut her down when you got there? You may have gelled fuel. If you can plug it in. Get some power service 911 in the red bottle for the fuel. You will need to probably change the fuel filter and put some 911 in the ff housing with some diesel.

53 willys

Check it for codes
Key ON-Key-off three times and then leave it on after the 3rd time.
It should display some codes or the word "done" on you odometer.
do that and tell use what you find.
we have winter blend diesel here I really doubt that it is gelled.


My guess is Lift pump and or injection pump.

Buckshotmckee

I 2nd that.

Vintage Empire

I filled up in Ceder City (about 100 miles away, I'm in Sandy)

I'll check it for codes right now..............

JD Dearden

Well I work in Sandy and could get you some additive in like 10 min, but mine hasen't gelled at all.

53 willys

I have not started my truck for a week and it was not gelled.

Scramblinman

You probably don't have fuel from southern California in it, either.

JD Dearden

I have never had my truck gel in Utah and it is pretty cold at night, Montana and Idaho different story besides he filled up in Cedar City.

Scramblinman

I would assume that the mountain states and other cold climates have anti-gelling additives in the diesel sold there, whereas diesel sold in southern California would be less likely to have such additives. Simply saying that a truck from Utah and regularly fueled with diesel blended for the climate has not gelled isn't really saying anything relevant. I left my truck at elk camp in single digit temperatures for several days and it didn't gel up, either, but I don't see how that really pertains to this instance.

That he filled up in Cedar City would seem to lessen the chances of his problem being fuel gelling, but perhaps there was enough residual fuel to cause the problem.

At any rate, hopefully it is something simple.

JD Dearden

I am not sure if they add anything or not, but in parts of Idaho and most of Montana you can get like three different kinds have you ever seen this.

Vintage Empire

Alright, well I checked for codes (key on/off 3 times, nothing happened, no codes or "done" appeared). I called Gillet Diesel Services just to see what they would say. He said it's sounds like a fuel pump or injection pump went out. $42.50 to diagnois, $199 for the pump, and $85 labor.

I just can't understand how it can go out while parked? Makes no sense to me. I almost ready to sell this truck and fly home.

crobtex

Crack #1 and #3 lines at the injector and krank it. If you're not getting any fuel, it could be jelled, VP44 has quit, or the lft pump has bit the dust. You really need to hook up a fp gage to the exit side of the filter housing to see if anything is getting to the VP.

JD Dearden

Actually Scrambelin the reason mine dosen't gel is because of my STACKS when you turn of the truck the heat backfeads into the tank and keeps it from freezing due to the verticalness of the stacks.