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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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Died On The Side Of The Road

Its not a CDT but a cummins did pull it home

Im putting this here because it seems that the people on this site really know their stuff.

Today I get a phone call about a 2001 sebring (gasser) is broke down on the side of the road. It just died. No noise...no codes. It starts and runs for a few seconds when its hot. If you let it set for an hour then it will run for about a minute and then die (after that it wont start until you wait again)

Any ideas on what it would be?
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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I would check to make sure you are keeping good fuel pressure at the rail. COuld be something as dumb as a fuel filter. Maybe some kind of sensor??
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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It has happend to me with some of my cars. Both times it was a cracked distributor cap. Never could see a crack but after replacement car ran fine. But 2001 I assume is electronic ignition so I would look around the ignition area. It has been raining a lot down there, something may just be wet.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Which Sebring? Convertible or coupe? Which engine? Depending on the model it could be the cap possibly, but I have seen them have a lot of bad distributors. There is a TSB on them in fact for a bad solder joint too IIRC. I'll see if I can find it.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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Sorry, that TSB was for the older sedans with a 2.5L . Yours is either a 2.4 or a 2.7L . I am assuming the 2.4L and the ignition coil pack is a very common problem on them too. Fairly cheap and easy to install. 4 10mm bolts and one plug in. No cap on these vehicles. Let me know if you need any more info if it has a different engine, ect.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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thanks for the help.

the engine is a 2.7 v6 sedan.

Why doesnt it have any spark plug wires?
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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It has coil on plugs. Each plug has it's own coil and a small boot that is essantially the plug wire, but you have to take the coil off to see it. It is part of the coil. Sounds more like a crank or cam position sensor to me now, knowing what engine it has.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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do you know where those sensors are located on this engine. this car is so hard to work on...everything is so compact
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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REMOVAL - 2.7L
Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the air cleaner box.
Disconnect the electrical connector from Crankshaft position sensor (Crankshaft Sensor - 2.7L).
Remove bolt.
Remove sensor.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by vzdude
REMOVAL - 2.7L
Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the air cleaner box.
Disconnect the electrical connector from Crankshaft position sensor (Crankshaft Sensor - 2.7L).
Remove bolt.
Remove sensor.
just a thought but if it was a sensor wouldn't it throw a code?


do you know what the fuel pressure should be I'm going to test that also
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Sometimes, then again, sometimes not. Do you have a scanner? I don't know if the key on/off cycle works on the cars. Do you have a fuel pressure guage? Need to check some basics, I'm just throwing out some ideas.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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I had that happen on a car I used to drive before I discovered the CUMMINS. Turned out the diaphram in the electric fuel pump would stretch with heat. Cold ran fine, warm it up and it would die.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vzdude
Sometimes, then again, sometimes not. Do you have a scanner? I don't know if the key on/off cycle works on the cars. Do you have a fuel pressure guage? Need to check some basics, I'm just throwing out some ideas.
i have a scanner but it only works on corvette motors so thats no good.

I do have a fuel pressure guage but wheres the fuel rail in this car? I looked all over an didnt see it unless its under that ridiculous intake manifold
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Yeah, it is kinda hard to get to. You have to have a special tool to go inbetween the fuel rail and the fuel line that hooks to it. A jumper hose basically that has a tee in it that you can hook the pressure guage up to. All the way at the back of the engine under all the air ducts if I remember right.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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hey vzdude. you wouldnt happen to have the procedure on removing and replacing the fuel pump handy would you. Im going to replace the fuel pump tomorrow.
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