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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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2001 dodge 3500 wont start

i have a 2001 3500 dodge diesel and it all started when i took the battery's off to put new ones on when i did it would not start started messing with the solenoids and it started then took cables off to clean post and did it again then didnt even take nothin off and drove to church sunday morning and come out from church and it would not start could anybody help me it is getting fuel to the lift pump and every thing please help
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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I don't know if you have same stuff as my 97. Maybe someone will chime in but let me get you started. Mine is a 12v and yours is a 24v so they are probably different but....

If your 2001 is like my 97 then since you was messing with battery connections there should be a blue wire connected to the drivers side battery. That blue wire is a fusible link that supplies 12v to the fuel shutdown relay. The fuel shutdown relay supplies 12v to the fuel shutdown solenoid. If you left off the blue fusible link then you got no power to fuel relay and no power to operate the fuel shutdown solenoid and the truck won't start without fuel.

Check fuses in PDC and under dash.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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I've been doing some searching and I don't believe your 2001 is like my 97. You need to check for any loose wires that didn't get connected when you disconnected the batteries and make sure they are clean and tight. Also check fuses.

One thing you should do is check for codes. I read one thread that said on the 2001 you can turn the key off 3 times and get the codes to scroll across the millage screen. If that don't work you need a code reader.

The other thing I found was the VP44 is notorious for failing. Also the injection return lines from the injectors can develop a slight crack and can get air in the system and cause it to loose prime.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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but why would it start and run just fine like nothing ever happened for a few day and then quit again
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Loose/bad connections
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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i checked there were no loose or bad connections
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by guttingjam
i checked there were no loose or bad connections
I would say there has to be. And it doesn't mean it has to be right at your batterys. It could be in the engine bay somewhere.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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could anybody tell me where the fuel shut off is on this truck
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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There is no fuel shut off. The VP-44 is electronically operated and all fuel stuff is handled by it. When you say doesn't start...do you mean that it cranks or there is nothing...i.e. no power at all.

The Key trick is: cycle the key to on-off-on-off-on, and look at the odo. It will show codes if there are any stored. Don't start the truck...let us know what it says.

Often when the VP-44 is failing or the electronics inside it are failing, it will not start when hot.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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it will turn over and cycles the fuel to the injector pump but after that i dont know and how do u read the codes does it do it through the check engine light or what
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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it will turn over and cycles the fuel to the injector pump but after that i dont know and how do u read the codes does it do it through the check engine light or what
I found this in a search:

Turn the ignition key from off to fully ON, but not far enough to engage the starter - do that 3 times fairly rapidly, and leave the key in the ON position on the last time - then watch the odometer window for the codes (if any) to read out - give it plenty of time to fully display until the normal odometer mileage reading returns. Have a pad and pencil ready to note any codes that might be displayed. The display will cycle thru 2 different modules - ECU and PCU as I recall...
I have read that the VP44 can fail with no codes.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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the codes are p0123 p1596 p1693
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Here's the Codes link:

http://wiki.dieseltruckresource.com/wiki/Computer_codes
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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these codes are not in there though
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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1693 is a companion code meaning there are more codes to be read by a code reader. I think you can borrow/rent one at an auto parts store. I don't know the first two though, I'll look them up.
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