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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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off road fuel color changes

i can fill my transfer tank @ 2.40 /gallon.
i do use it in the backhoe...but if i put it in the truck as well?
i know itll burn okay but how can i make the red go away? add a bunch of yellow dye to turn the red green??
also if its green in the tank and red in the pipe...then what??
im rarely anywhere but in my area. very rural and all agricultural. cattle and groves so gettin stopped is probly pretty slim theyd be lookin fer that

whaddya'll think?? can i turn the red green or not?
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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The red dye in the fuel has specific chemical markers in it. Changing the color wont help. You would have to chemically change the fuel to fool the test.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Not worth the risk IMHO.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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From what I've seen posted, anything other than 'Normal' fuel color is grounds for an investigation leading to a possible bust.
Why not just suck it up and pay the same State and Federal highway taxes the REST of us are forced to pay?

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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**** dude not to be unpatriotic or nuthin but youre sounding a little too gov'tal here. just a thought . besides does the govt really need to soak me for 65 cents a gallon to drive on these <edit> highways...33% of my take home is gone before i get it...comeon dude. relax a little. maybe we should spend a little more money in iraq..or subsidizing multi milliondollar farms so i cant make a livin offa my cattle anymore. dont get me started.

i love my country but its a little mismanaged i think.

at first i wasnt gonna post it but since ya threw out the character attack i thought id vent.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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It's just that your's isn't the first post we've encountered looking for ways to illegally run off-road/non-taxed fuel in a highway registered vehicle.

I think the price of fuel at the pump pulls high vacuum also, the alternative is to walk or take public transportation, not to try to be one more individual attempting to circumvent the law.
I also have seen the cheaper price at the Off-Road ONLY fuel pumps.

The taxes YOU avoid paying have to be paid by the rest of us.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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i feel yer pain. just lookin fer another way to pinch pennies my friend. no harm or disrespect meant to anyone.
but it does challenge ones mind dont it
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Shovelhead,

The thought of the rest of use making up what one person doesn't pay is a crackup. We as a country are so outrageously in debt that one man's fuel tax is less than invisible. I don't feel ripped off if someone doesn't pay road tax, and my taxes don't go up accordingly.

It may be illegal and it may even be immoral but to compare it to doing the right thing and to compare it to costing the rest of use seems silly. If those things are your priority, doing the right thing and being moral, and I know they are because I know you are a good man, maybe your energy would be better spent on mentioning the extreme Iraq fiasco and the national debt currently being bought up by China. How does one man's fuel tax frustration even hit the radar when TONS of $100 bills disappear overseas, every Amercan family will be assessed thousands for an unnecessary war, and oil company profits are at an all time high?

It's time we worked together to fix what is really important. We're all frustrated. And the way things are going I feel we're heading for a big cliff.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Sorry for the rant

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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What the difference between running "off road" and me making bio in my garage and using it in a registered vehicle. Either way your not paying to use the road and the government is missing out. Frankly i'm surprised that the man hasn't made it illegal to make and use bio, even though it is better for the environment.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by apwatson50
What the difference between running "off road" and me making bio in my garage and using it in a registered vehicle. Either way your not paying to use the road and the government is missing out. Frankly i'm surprised that the man hasn't made it illegal to make and use bio, even though it is better for the environment.
That was mentioned on a thread some time back. There was something about it being illegal. Maybe someone will chime in here and clear that up.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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What the difference between running "off road" and me making bio in my garage and using it in a registered vehicle. Either way your not paying to use the road and the government is missing out. Frankly i'm surprised that the man hasn't made it illegal to make and use bio, even though it is better for the environment.

Good point....
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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It's time we worked together to fix what is really important. We're all frustrated. And the way things are going I feel we're heading for a big cliff.
So the way to accomplish this 'work together' thing is for everyone just quit paying taxes they don't agree with?.....

SO FAR running home-made Bio seems to be coming in under the RADAR.
You are allowed to use a 'Fuel Additive' so I guess running a Bio/Diesel mix is still OK at this point.

It won't take long for the Treasury Dept and the states to see how much revenue is being lost and to put a stop to it. (remember Moonshine?)

As for the "One Man's tax evasion being an invisable drop in the bucket' analogy.....ever wonder why we have to pay so much Social Security out of every paycheck?
To pay for all those (drops in a bucket) able bodied 'citizens' that can't (and/or won't) work to support themselves.

before I get this locked and moved to the Political Forum....Rant Off.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Shovel, the reason this country came to being,was people started working together and stopped paying taxes they thought were unfair. Please don't take this as a personal attach just a friendly reminder.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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It's really not the taxes on the fuel that are the problem, even though they get spent on other than roads. It's spending so much for the fuel before the taxes and seeing that money become record profits for big oil or, even worse, sent off to countries overseas that openly hate us. Giving billions to people that hate us. All they have to do is turn off the tap and we will have the biggest national crisis we've ever had.


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