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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Here is what I know from the studies I have done in college on Biodiesel and the studies I have seen from both universities and the fuel manufacturers, ie the people at Lincoln-Land ethanol plant. As of now there is no efficient way to make ethanol and there is about a 20% energy loss with the most efficient production techniques, Soy Biodiesel has a positive energy gain of about 300% and canola even higher. I look at this as a gaint push for biodiesel over every other alternative out there. There are new hybrid mustard seed feedstocks coming soon that will produce finished fuel for about $1.30 on the commercial level. Probably will never see that kind of savings at the pump though, everyone will take their cut.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Oh, you can be sure the taxman will be there with his blood sucking parisites.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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[i]Just keep thinking that Big Oil's pockets are deeper than most other industries, that's one of the main reasons that alternative fuels are not explored more aggressively.
Ever heard the rumors about them buying up the rights to fancy carb's that got like 50MPG's, and other conspricy theroies? [/B]
Hey, that part's TRUE!!! My dad had a buddy that bought a car new GM off the showroom lot in the '70's The thing had a 350 in it that got 45 - 50MPG! He had some guys in Black suits from GM knocking on his door to get their "experimental" carb back. It cost em some $$$.
If I was that guy, I'd have taken that carb to someone for disassembly and had blueprints drawn up. Sell em to the highest bidder.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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See!

Unless we are going to call this guy a Liar??
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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errrrr, how about that Asian bean rust blite that's coming through with the hurricanes? Very expensive to treat from what I here. Reduces yields to half of normal.

It is showing up in Ga. The bean market is going to go through the roof. Soy will be out of the question. Found positive case in Florida on 7/19/05 on soy. Also finding infected Kudzu which we have lots of in my area. Soy is going to get real expensive as this travels accros the country.

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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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And then there is the OBVIOUS. This morning Exxon Mobil turned out their earnings numbers for the last quarter. They announced a 32% increase over forecasted earnings. Big oil is gonna drive the prices just where they want them...... Homegrown or dino, the prices are gonna be jacked by the Big Boys to just where they want them....




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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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That is exactly the opposite of anything I've ever read. What I've read is that it takes roughly 30% less engery to convert than Dino-Diesel....I'll have to find my source of course, as I've been scouring the internet rapidly finding how-tos on making Bio-Diesel.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by yosemitesamiam
That is exactly the opposite of anything I've ever read. What I've read is that it takes roughly 30% less engery to convert than Dino-Diesel....I'll have to find my source of course, as I've been scouring the internet rapidly finding how-tos on making Bio-Diesel.
There is no doubt a lot less refining for bioDiesel then petroDiesel, but the amount of energy that goes into extracting the oil is what is being argued.


You know, the energy it takes to run the crop duster, combine and tractor versus the amount of energy to pump the crude and put it in a supertanker.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Begle1
There is no doubt a lot less refining for bioDiesel then petroDiesel, but the amount of energy that goes into extracting the oil is what is being argued.


You know, the energy it takes to run the crop duster, combine and tractor versus the amount of energy to pump the crude and put it in a supertanker.
HA, yeah...ALSO, I guess it does take a lot more energy to get up, find used sludge, and refine into a burnable fuel yourself...than it does to drive down to the nearest Arco and fill'r up!
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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check out "new world technology's", they have a proccess to convert garbage into #2.
with a big net gain of energy.
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